[Ask the Gulch] What if--hypothetically--scientists stumbled upon a method of actually controlling climate at will?
Posted by preimert1 5 years, 10 months ago to Ask the Gulch
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Also, if things get dicey in Washington DC, down here we have a 400-mile head start, in case we need to get out of Dodge.
Sailing and fresh fish for dinner sounds idyllic most of the time though.
If sea levels are rising, then it's measured in millimeters/year, and not feet/year.
Temperatures rise. Temperatures fall.
This is why climate alarmists—who weirdly are unanimous in their anti-capitalist worldview—no longer talk about Global Warming™, but instead Climate Change™.
Nice that you recognize that you are doing it every time you promote GW. Unfortunately it hasn't stopped your irrational public support for unscientifically derived anthropomorphic GW propaganda.
If you want to waste your time on GW that's fine; it's your time. Just stop being a communist and trying to steal assets from the rest of us who can see that anthropomorphic GW is not a danger and nothing more than a scam to loot from us and give power to the unproductive.
This sounds silly to me, close to the moonlanding hoax. To be fair, it's actually closer to claims that GMOs have health risks or that homeopathy is real. People start with a desire for something to be true and then ignore reality. Just like with other people want to be true, e.g. Bermuda Triangle, extra-terrestrial visitors, various conspiracies, anti-vax, ESP, they want to keep testing the hypothesis that mainstream scientific thought is wrong. They cling to any anomalies in the data and invent scenarios where the scientific establishment is conspiring to hide the truth.
Centuries in the future humans found a way to control the climate.
Exploration of the galaxy was the next step.
The climate control worked well, at first, then there were global scale disasters.
Fortunately, in space exploration some extra-terrestrial civilizations were contacted,
they were friendly enough to lend money and resources to attempt remedies.
Then, it turned out that that this friendship also came at a price.
one else. But don't worry. If two plus two could somehow be made to equal five, that would result in horrible consequences in banks, at cash registers, in medical prescriptions, and who knows what----but it can't be done, so you can rest easy on that score.
Actually, the more prosperous countries have the cleanest atmospheric environments. Certain emissions should be reduces, but not CO2 unless one wants to cause wholesale death with the reduction in food production. The world could use at least a doubling of atmospheric CO2 just to keep up with population increases. That would increase the average world (?) temperature by about 1.5 degree C. The most prolific life increase was with much higher CO2 in the atmosphere.
At present there is one CO2 molecule per 2500 molecules of atmosphere. Even at one per 1000, the CO2 molecule cannot exchange the average energy of the other molecules to increase by energy exchanges. The atmosphere is heated mostly by conduction with convection and advection with radiation doing most of the energy release to space through CO2 rather than the heating of the Earth, while O2, N2, and Ar do not radiate well in the infrared.
In the story, people had colonized several planets and each planet was climate controlled to mimic a different continent, like Africa, for instance. Then, only "Africans" populated this planet and everybody was happy...at first.
The story continued with an African shaman doing something that ticked off the central government, who's main hold on the people was...you guessed it, control of their climate.
I'll let you use your imagination, from there...
Of course, the machine would begin to influence the climate long before it's completed. That said, the planet would compensate for the disturbance which would mean the effectiveness of the machine would be questioned. It would however provide an excellent demonstration of the effects of negative feedback at the planetary scale.
Only by continuing to enlarge the machine would its owners be capable of dialing in the desired climate effects at will.
FWIW said machine could probably be built for a few trillion dollars to demonstrate the process and several tens to hundreds of trillions to achieve the level of total control.
-- In Liberty
As for changing the weather patterns locally, it is done easily by heating and air conditioning devices where one can keep the temperature in a comfortable range as long as the devices are mostly isolated from the outside weather.
Measurements of all kinds are not reifiable, i.e., exist only in minds within brains and do not exist as objects in objective reality. Same for all concepts, they are not ideals in some Platonic reality but are a way of defining and knowing and acting with that which exists in objective reality.
https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/a...
And which scientists are we talking about?
Like those Fraggin' Flat Earthers who suggest the MOON is "man-made", but satellites aren't possible (ROTFLMAO)
Second, they would, in the "good intentions" spirit of STOPPING FOREST FIRES, cause some MASSIVE earth destroying event.
Mans ignorance is ONLY EXCEEDED by his arrogance!
The repercussions of such changes might not be understood for 1,000 years!
Imagine the next society finding some of our buried cities, and their history, and FALLING out of their chairs laughing...
"Then, they Proved they could control the weather, and decided to go for it!"
[Laughing: OMG, such idiots. It's like giving a bunch of Chimps a nuclear device AND the detonator!]
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