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Pneumonia As It Is Rarely Discussed

Posted by Herb7734 4 years, 5 months ago to Education
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Last February I came down with pneumonia. It is a disease that I thought of as being minor, sort of like a bad cold.I had no idea how wrong I was. The wrongness of my attitude was shown recently by the death of a number of people caused by pneumonia. Here I was, a doddering 84 year old (currently made it to 85)who though that being in the hospital for pneumonia was a great waste of time.However, I was curedand released in a few days, thus confirming that the disease was no big beal. That is, until I tried to resume my "normal" life. Before the big "P" I walked pretty good with a cane, and my sone had a good time providing me with some of the most outlandish canes which I gleefully used to get a rise out of people. But, after P, I found I needed a walker, since my legs had become much weaker.In addition, my brains were scrambled to the point that I thought I was coming down with dementia, a prelude to Alzheimer's. Also, I began having mild hallucinations.I had lived through the LSD craze without participating, giving the Woody Allen excuse, "My brain is my second favorite organ." I found that when attempting to write, I couldn't put two coherent sentences together and thus, I ceased writing. I was fortunate in that my wife refused to give up on me.She kept me out of a nursing home because she was determined that I'd get better. She was right, eventually I got better.The experience made me wonder just how many people who are in nursing homes that don't belong there since not many women can put up with the disabled and mixed up persons that are in their care.Food for thought?


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  • Posted by dteselle 4 years, 5 months ago
    My father started having hallucinations and became too much for my stepmother to handle in addition to some flooding issues they were having in the house at the time. Hospice offered to "care" for him for a minimum of five days while she took care of household concerns. While in their care, they kept him so sedated that he could not eat or drink; nor did they provide any IV fluids. I did not realize at the time that what they were doing was shutting down his organs. They were successful and six days into his stay he died. Hospice is backdoor euthanasia.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I always expect a reaction from an immunization. They work by triggering an immune reaction so that your immune system is prepared for the disease if it ever encounters it. You want a reaction -- you just want it to be mild.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 4 years, 5 months ago
    Thanks for the post. I just got both pmeumo vaccines which I hope will help me stay healthy.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Neurontin or Gabbapentin (generic) is a dangerous drug. I took one and it didn't work. Called the doc's office and 'Bambi' got on the 'phone and assured me I could take another pill. I ended up on the floor and the EMS thought I had a stroke. At a recent visit to my back specialist he informed me he doesn't like Neurontin because you have to take too many to make it work!!!!!
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 4 years, 5 months ago
    I think my father (who died in 2007, aged 91) had pneumonia several times in his life. I believe it gave him some ear infections and may have actually broken his eardrum one time. Still, he remained very strong. But he eventually got Alzheimer's ; he was diagnosed with it , I think that was about a year before he died.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I do believe you are correct. My BFF fell and fractured her leg in three places. She didn't fall that hard! Her blood sugar was 500 when the EMS got there. Her bones are very brittle. On the other hand, I have unusual bone density and I am 12 years older that her. I landed on my beautiful and didn't fracture anything but I did dislocate my hip!
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not as we get older.

    Need to clarify. I don't know what you're reading on this. But, I work in it. I get lots of calls on legionella outbreaks that you won't hear about. It's been educational, to say the least. When a rest home has an outbreak. My phone often rings...
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, Rachmninoff :Rachs but from Harry James, Benny Goodman, Charlie Barnett, good vibes we also receive!!! Get better, Herb-a-leh!!
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not a doctor giving advice but I did work in Army hospitals, Red Cross, was Director of Medical Records of a hospital and Exec. Dir. of a FQHC.. Ran a health clinic for 16 years.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey Herb, you are sleeping propped up aren't you? Can't lay flat with squishy lungs. Those bed backrest thingys that you almost sit up in are great!
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 4 years, 5 months ago
    It's referred to as "the old man's friend" for a reason.
    You can easily die of hypoxia from a bout with pneumonia.

    Glad that you're feeling better.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not only does flu make you want to die, there are 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually from flue since 2010 In the USA.
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  • Posted by stevieg88 4 years, 5 months ago
    Pneumonia is not a joke.
    I contracted it three years ago and was in the hospital for three months.

    One would think that for as many years pneumonia has been plaguing mankind, medicine would have had a simple cure for it, or eliminatred it entirely. Sorry, not that wat,
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  • Posted by sheinpdx 4 years, 5 months ago
    Probably not relevant to Herb's situation, but important to know that seniors frequently experience delerium after anesthetics. Also, it is not infrequent for delerium to be mistaken for dementia. A psychiatrist I know treated a woman who had been diagnosed with dementia for 3 years. He took her off some of her meds and she had total mental clarity. I like a statement I recently heard: don't consider the warnings "side effects", think of them as "effects".
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  • Posted by bsmith51 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    According to a physical therapist I know, contrary to what most people think, old people don't fall and then break bones, they break bones and then fall. Take care of "them bones."
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 4 years, 5 months ago
    I nearly lost my wife to pneumonia about 20 years ago, and she developed pulmonary hypertension as an aftereffect. That disorder is supposed to be progressive, so after diagnosis she was placed under the care of specialists in heart-lung transplants. Somehow, to the amazement of the doctors, she stabilized about ten years ago, and no longer has to see anyone but her heart specialist for blood pressure control and arrythmia (a side effect of the pulmonary hypertension).

    There's a lot the medical community doesn't know about human physiology. When I went for treatment of sciatic pain, I was placed on neurontin (gabapentin), which is supposed to block one of the pain calcium channels. Unfortunately, I happened to be one of the one in ten thousand whose calcium channels are different, and the medicine didn't block the pain, but screwed up my motor control to my lower extremities. I used to have no trouble walking long distances, but now I have a hard time walking over a quarter mile. With the probability of my reaction to the medicine being so low, there was no way the doctor could have foreseen this reaction, so I can't see any malpractice involved.
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  • Posted by bsmith51 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    “There's music in the sighing of a reed;
    There's music in the gushing of a rill;
    There's music in all things, if men had ears;
    The earth is but the music of the spheres.”

    ― Lord George Gordon Byron
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 4 years, 5 months ago
    I nearly died from pneumonia years ago, came on suddenly. They made it worse by giving me penicillin, bad. My 103 temp shot to 106! I broke out in a rash and then went into a coma, where I had the out of body thing. Very weak when it was cured, and I was quite young.
    So, when they offered this senior the first pneumonia shot, I took it, it is nto cultured in egg, so was safe for me. No issues. However, a year later, I was told to take the second in the series, so I said ok. Well, my arm got so sore I could not lean on it, and I was so exhausted for several day, all I could do was sleep! I was ntot warned that the second shot has a 55% adverse reaction rate! I alwasy look things up first, I just got lax on checking after the first went so well. Glad you are back among the functioning again. Could the lingering symptoms have been a reaction to meds they have you while you did have pneumonia. My husband got like you after he was off predisone for a shoulder issue, even though they did decrease the dose at the last.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 4 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's why they call it "practicing medicine". A lot of it is treated as a crap shoot...
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  • Posted by LarryHeart 4 years, 5 months ago
    Were you given anesthesia or any opiates?
    I had similar symptoms from those. It takes a while to recover. They mess with your brain chemistry
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 4 years, 5 months ago
    Sucks getting old....I am only 61 but shit keeps dropping off and quitting working! Actually I am in pretty good condition....but one can never loose sight of the fact that none of us get out of this life alive! Young people....do things in moderation.....stay away from drugs...especially the recreational variety. I know quite a few people that really abused it when they were young and they are really falling apart now. Our bodies are actually designed to last only about 40 years....by then, in the primitive environment that we evolved to be in....we would have missed the migration south for the winter due to a stubbed toe and an infection [or any number of things like that] and died. 40 years gives you just enough time to reproduce successfully. Keep this in mind when you think about exercise. Do it in moderation....don't beat up your joints.....Too much of anything is bad for you. Anyone over 40 is past the design capacity of the human body and is only alive because we have an easy life in western society...[go the some shithole like Afghanistan and see how long they last there!] and we have some ability to fight infection with drugs and support us when we get sick....so you don't die from the aforementioned stubbed toe.

    Herb7734....good luck to you buddy!
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  • Posted by term2 4 years, 5 months ago
    Our bodies are VERY complicated and interdependent. Something like pneumonia messes up a lot of things that the doctors really dont understand.

    I had a seizure a few years ago for an unknown and non repeating reason. I noticed a number of effects from that which lingered for awhile.

    Medicine really doesnt understand how the human body works. When a computer goes nuts, we can just reload the operating system. With humans, we havent figured out how to do that.- yet.
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  • Posted by kddr22 4 years, 5 months ago
    Did they give you the name of an organism that caused it ?
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