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Posted by khalling 12 years, 1 month ago to Movies
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years, 1 month ago
    I waited to the last minute. I’ve got to go pledge. I can’t lie; I wanted to be a walk on, I mean, extra. *pouts*

    I have to settle for contributor without a t-shirt. Lol.
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  • Posted by Danny 12 years, 1 month ago
    To Kh: It's a good movie. Like I said Clive Owen is strong and forceful in that movie. Played Hemmingway well. He'd be good as Galt. This is what the "more money" can do, get stronger actors.
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    • Posted by 12 years, 1 month ago
      I am about the director. I have said that from the first time I came into the gulch. they have got to get the Objectivism and you do not need the big actors if it is well directed. but, I do not live in Hollywood and I love indie films, so what do I know? what was the boxer movie? it had mark wahlberg and EVERYONE else knew boxing but was not a star. something to be learned from that...
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  • Posted by Danny 12 years, 1 month ago
    No problem. It would be great if we could get some of our friends from the Forbes list (Murdoch, Koch, Devos, Pickens, Kravis and Roberts and others who are strong Capitalists) to help invest in this movie.
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    • Posted by EconomicFreedom 12 years, 1 month ago
      [It would be great if we could get some of our friends from the Forbes list (Murdoch, Koch, Devos, Pickens, Kravis and Roberts and others who are strong Capitalists) to help invest in this movie.]

      I thought the movie was already fully funded. Why does it need more strong capitalists to "help invest" in it?
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      • Posted by richrobinson 12 years, 1 month ago
        That is fully explained if you click on the kickstarter banner.
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        • Posted by EconomicFreedom 12 years, 1 month ago
          [That is fully explained if you click on the kickstarter banner]

          I've already done that and perused the FAQs. They say merely that the donations will be used to "expand" production, distribution, and marketing (broad categories that cover just about anything and everything in making a movie). And then another paragraph in one of the FAQs contradicts all that and claims that the donations are "not about the money" but about marketing.

          Marketing? What happened to "production, distribution" mentioned in an earlier paragraph?

          If marketing only, will the donations be used only to market AS-3? Or will they be used to market the entire, completed trilogy? Apparently, no one inquired.

          So why don't you explain it to me, richrobinson, since you are so easily satisfied with vague explanations provided on the Kickstarter site.
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          • Posted by richrobinson 12 years, 1 month ago
            Hi Ecofreedom. As you can see the kickstarter campaign is over and it was a huge success. The movie itself is fully funded and would be made and released with or without the kickstarter monies. Those funds will help to market ASIII. If the first 2 parts are promoted at the same time I am happy with that. Contributions were voluntary so I am a bit perplexed as to why you are upset by it.
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            • Posted by EconomicFreedom 12 years, 1 month ago
              [As you can see the kickstarter campaign is over and it was a huge success.]

              One is born every day, as P.T. Barnum quipped. No one ever doubted there would be plenty of suckers ready and willing to throw their money at a project that already had money. You're in denial if you believe that's what all the snickering was about.

              Oh, and by the way, much of the snickering was being done by former-generation Objectivists and other admirers of Rand, not unidentified "haters."

              [The movie itself is fully funded]

              According to the producers.

              Which broaches the question of why they would ask for donations on top of that.

              [and would be made and released with or without the kickstarter monies.]

              Unsubstantiated assumption and subjective opinion on your part. No one knows if that's true or not, and it's obviously too late now. Your statement is as stupid as Obama's claim that "America would have lost even more jobs had we not injected stimulus money into the economy." Unmeasurable, unknowable, unverifiable.

              But if you prefer to believe your statement on the basis of faith, go right ahead.

              [Those funds will help to market ASIII.]

              Not according to the FAQs on the Kickstarter page. Try reading them sometime. One paragraph claims the donations will be used to "expand" the budgets for production, distribution, and marketing. Got that? Not just marketing, but production and distribution, too. The next paragraph, however, contradicts the first paragraph by claiming the request for more money was not about the money (?) but, rather, was about marketing. So the 2nd paragraph dispenses with the notion that Kickstarter donations will be used to "expand" the budgets for production and distribution, too.

              [If the first 2 parts are promoted at the same time I am happy with that.]

              I'm quite sure you are, and that you'd be happy with any use to which Aglialoro and Kaslow put your money. That's between you and your wallet.

              [Contributions were voluntary so I am a bit perplexed as to why you are upset by it.]

              I've never claimed to be upset. Wonder why you would think that. In fact, I'm highly amused – by your gullibility.
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              • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years, 1 month ago
                exactly what is gullible about contributing money to a kickstarter campaign?
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                • Posted by EconomicFreedom 12 years, 1 month ago
                  [exactly what is gullible about contributing money to a kickstarter campaign?]

                  ???

                  Not sure I understand your question. You're asking, "Exactly what is gullible about contributing money to producers who claim they already have money for their project?"

                  Is that what you're asking? Because that's actually what you're asking.

                  "What's so gullible about donating money to people who don't need it, and who give vague and 'generic' explanations regarding what they intend to do with it?"
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          • Posted by 12 years, 1 month ago
            econfreedom, if you are uncomfortable with how the monies will be used-then fine-don't invest. but most investors were comfortable with the value. When someone puts their own capital representing the vast majority of the budget on the line, it tends to instill confidence. It is a risk. What is YOUR goal here?
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