And now robberies and hold-ups are happening by characters wearing medical masks! Dual purpose: remain anonymous in plain sight and show consideration for your victim!

Different problem. Should you wear a mask when there is NO known contagion floating around? NOPE.

So, you are right, our "managers" (because they are NOT leaders), are doing a poor job. We should have the 5 level color coded system telling us:
Green: Normal
Yellow: Old/Sickly People Stay Home
Orange: Everyone Wear Masks
Red: Masks, Gloves, Social Distance
Black: Lock Down! (We should NEVER get here)

Truth is social distancing and masks work. We should never need to lock down.

The question is. Would you willingly wear the masks and/or gloves in such a system on a voluntary basis... If it meant we NEVER had to lock down again? I would.

Society is a complex thing, but it is fragile! Especially in todays world with everyone being pushed to their corners!

Oh, I understand the concept of a "carrier", alright.

Problem is...when do you stop wearing a mask as a preventative measure? What if you decide to never get tested or get vaccinated?

Nobody appears to have adequate answers to these questions (or many others, in that case), so we'll just have to rely upon our own actions for the time being.

Heres a fun one for you . Make sure you read the paragraph half way down the page that starts with:
"After visiting the emergency room ......"

https://www.today.com/health/nbc-news...

It is strange, where I live, we have to wear masks if we want to work. It is astonishing that we are required to acknowledge a falsehood in order to make a living. It is the very definition of evil. I will not wear one of the stupid surgical masks. I am wearing a bandana that looks like I'm ready to rob a bank. Its kind of fun to dress that way, but its ridiculously stupid.

I'm more conscious about wearing a mask because my wife is an RN and I have some underlying minor health issues. Once I receive my new sewing machine I will do some Olson style masks with interior pocket to install a fine copper mesh (copper material will kill viruses). Most of the supermarkets and hardware store employees wear masks and are behind plexiglass shields with card machines external to that. I have seen employees wipe them down after every use. I don't wear a mask if I'm walking my dog since I live in somewhat rural area. Most of the residents are older retirees who very rarely leave their homes. I might see one other person out and about or no one at at all.

No I don’t wear a mouth burka.

There is a difference between government mandates and social responsibility in a Democracy. I don't know what is happening everywhere, but here in Iowa, there is midwestern sensibility being applied. It is NOT a government requirement that masks be worn, but a recommendation. I wear a mask in all stores that post on their front doors that they require customers to wear a mask. Those stores don't enforce that, but they are requesting it. It falls into the domain of a business has the right to set their own rules for their establishment... Like "No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service." I don't wear a mask when there is no request by the store owner to do so. I think that many people have been so outraged by the lockdown COMMANDS that they have lost the spirit of wearing masks as a social nicety, sort of like opening the door for others. As long as it is not commanded that all Americans wear masks and the powers that be let the citizens decide, then we should focus our attention on the real issues going on with government command and control and out of control spending around this pandemic.

I am wearing one at work, but only because it is required. I have been of the belief that this whole thing is just silly from the get go, but watching it turn in to a whole comedic shit show as it has gone along only serves to reinforce my opinion.

Good points!

You score high on "common sense"

"I just stay away from places where others are sick, or I am squashed in close proximity to others (nightclubs, large crowds, subways, buses, planes)."

I like to tell people I've been practicing for this most of my life. :P The media talks about practicing it, but I think I'm pretty close to having perfected it. ;)

Or so my wife says about me.

In scuba and snorkeling we'd spit in the mask and swish that around with a touch of water (learned that in Ranger training). Worked a treat most of the time. But you had to do it before it got foggy. Once they fogged up it wouldn't work. Man I'd get funny looks for quite a while after adopting that practice....

"Is there any value in recycling your exhaled carbon monoxide?"

It is dioxode, but otherwise, absolutely, yes! CO2 is a natural relaxant. If you're old enough you might remember the common "breathe into a paper bag" to stop hyperventilating thing. It worked (and still does) because the hyperventilation is an over-excitement of the lungs; and in the case of an asthma attack or similar it is the bronchi vibrating too fast that causes the shortness of breath and panting. Re-breathing your exhale increases the CO2 level in the lungs which acts directly as a relaxant.

Incidentally, this basic mechanism is why I am alive to type about it today. Years ago I was having a terrible Easter due to allergies and a form of COPD. I was sitting alone by my fireplace late one night and my breathing was getting worse and worse. I couldn't get enough air to stand up and didn't have my phone. All I did have was the (generation 1) iPad with me. Despite having been deployed, at no point in my life had I ever thought "well, that is that I am about to die" until that moment.

In sheer desperation I hit up Google for a Hail Mary of finding some technique I could try in my increasingly light headed state. I came across some old Soviet research - the kind you could NOT do in the West then or now - that was heavily about breathing and the many ways it ties in with illnesses. They were able to induce asthma attacks in otherwise healthy people at will by breathing patterns and to reverse them. With nothing to lose, I tried them with what I could makeshift within reach. It was functionally all about CO2 breathing.

Within moments I could breath better, and a few more moments had me breathing better than I had in weeks. To this day if I get wheezy from anything I go there. I go there sometimes to try to calm my body down and even to aid sleep onset. CO2 is arguably the most potent bronchodilator we know of (it is also a vasodilator so that helps). Well, short of an axe or something. ;)


It may sound like "woo-woo science" due to it being breath based, but it is rock solid science underneath it. It certainly sounds counter-intuitive to hold your breath during such an attack, but the biochemistry supports it (an asthma attack is technically hyperventilation - it just FEELS like the opposite).

That said, the masks people are wearing or making are not going to cause you to be re-breathing an appreciable amount of your own CO2.

It is a misuse of masks the way it is being put and used. The proper use of a mask in public is to keep YOUR sick germs/virus off of the surfaces. It does nothing to stop the invasion from the outside.

Viruses such as and including, SARS2 enter via mucus membranes and orally. On your head the the entry points are: eyes, ears, mouth, and nasal passages.

You can have a perfect mask the absolutely filters out all viruses, wear it perfectly on your mouth and nose, and still get it because you have unprotected eyes and ears.

Wear a mask if you are sick in public, not to not get it.

I have masks on hand from my Dental Clinic. Never have worn one out in public. We have the flu virus every year and we don't mask or hide in our homes.

At Home Depot today there were only two checkout places. I am 83 and have a broken foot. I complained loudly. I heard a lady, wearing a mask, yell at a man that she was wearing it to protect him! LOL!

In Harris County (Houston) Texas masks are mandatory. Guess what? They can't fine you or do anything if you don't wear one. Been there, done that!

Not a chance in hell will I wear a mask. I will spend a night in jail if I get "pulled over" while out running, if it were declared that masks must be worn outside. Costco now requires them. I am no longer going to Costco until the requirement is lifted. On the flip-side -- when I am ill or feeling a cold coming on, I stick to myself, remain at home and keep my germs to myself. Innocent until proven guilty.

Earlier today, I was visiting my tax accountant -- no masks being worn by him or the receptionist. Then I was at a sporting goods store -- none of the associates had masks. Then on to the gun shop. Still no masks. Out on the shooting range ... obviously, no masks. This is Washington State, the East Side... more adults on this side.

I am wearing a modified VEIL so i can breath and still not attract unwanted attention... GREY MAN theory works! ...of course it is grey.

I bet she gets VERY good healthcare, that we ALL pay for one way or another. Too bad

We suspect she was already taking HCQ+Zn. My wife's found that Zn deficiency is a problem for some folks, especially elderly. Some study from 2012. Known info. Immune decline from not enough Zn.

I hope pelosi and her ilk get the corona virus. We would all be better off if they were not around, as bad as that sounds.

He was forced into the situation. Q4121

Exactly- good analogy. I dare say that in the level 4 biolabs they dont bother with the cheap masks that we are being told to wear.