Could Trump haters push to delay a Covid vaccine??

Posted by oldtk 5 years, 1 month ago to Politics
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A vaccine release before the election could boost the stock market to new highs; bad for the left?

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  • Posted by Abaco 5 years, 1 month ago
    Own the stock that Fauci and Salaoui own... There's your answer...
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  • Posted by Abaco 5 years, 1 month ago
    And...I stand by my prediction. They will rush this vaccine out without sufficient history on it, and probably ignoring the data in the expedited trials (some of it is bad, by the way) and force it on school kids. I may be wrong. I'd love to be wrong. But...we'll see...
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  • Posted by Abaco 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The answer is "no", they won't. There are a ton of Trump supporters who will not vaccinate.

    Please, let's try to avoid politicizing this issue. It's already f*&cked up enough...
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  • Posted by Doug_Huffman 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Scientist is an epithet. What is ‘science’, not what is the scientific method.

    My worn copy of The Logic of Scientific Discovery (tr. 1959 Logic der Forschung, Springer 1935) (Routledge 2002) is 500+ pages. In a word -

    Science is falsification. What is not falsifiable is nonsense. Falsification is the demarcation boundary.

    The Science Wars are over. Unfortunately it appears that higher social criticism won - as illustrated above.
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  • Posted by Doug_Huffman 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Unverifiable claims of professional credentials on the internet are anile and moot. The best one can do is elevate the dialogue.

    Virus live and virus dead does not for me cut it. THE MOTOR assembled and complete was ‘live’, while reduced to incomplete and components was ‘dead’.

    As I said elsewhere on the Gulch, I have first hand experience maintaining effective neutron multiplication fraction.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't know if this is up your alley but I'd like to know why Biology, (or what ever field), doesn't study "Non Secretors": a person that "Only" expresses blood type antigens in the blood.
    I am a non secretor and rarely if ever get a virus infection. I've never had the flu. It's been 30+ years since I've had a cold.

    Might you be able to point me to more substantive studies in this area than the dribble found on an internet search?
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  • Posted by oldtk 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Because they generally do. An, a "live" virus can replicate inside a host. A "dead" virus can't. I think he understands that.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I got it and I thank you for your input, a bit over my head no less, but did mean all sciences including virologist.
    We grew up being taught science facts but learned later in life, most is just theory...replaced by more theory...especially lately. Which for Science is a good thing.
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  • Posted by oldtk 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Que? I have a masters in molecular biology and I don't know what you just said.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I read that viruses do not meet the definition of Live....and Laughing, no, I don't think many of the sciences today have advanced academic qualifications.
    In my day, we did revere science, now we find we did so blindly.
    These days, I'd trust the passionate, integrated amateur more.
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  • Posted by Doug_Huffman 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Which “the test?”

    Antigen tests detects particular components of virus(es). Do you understand that a virus does not meet the strict definition of ‘live’? A virus in isolation cannot reproduce; a requirement for life.

    Why do you believe / imagine that virologists have advanced academic qualifications?
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    From what I understand is that the test cannot tell the difference between a live virus from a dead virus...after all this time, sunshine, humidity, high temperatures; not to mention short life span, even on hard surfaces since, October???...the virus is DEAD and likely pieces parts blowing around...unless of course...it's being re-introduced is my take.

    Just my thoughts on the subject.
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  • Posted by Doug_Huffman 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Ab initio deaths presumed to be caused by the virus were reported. Now the surge is of cases due to more prevalent testing, not more prevalent virus.

    Does anyone here epistemologically trespass on epidemiology? To differentiate specificity from sensitivity and antigen testing from antibody testing? Of course not!
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  • Posted by Doug_Huffman 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Really? For you, for me, for all of us?

    Not for me. Maybe for you. Hopefully not for all of us.

    It is unfortunate how often I find US referred to as a collective.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 years, 1 month ago
    Interesting point...I wonder if they have re-introduced the virus causing a surge.
    We'll have to see what they do...if it does nothing but put a tracking chip in you, then they won't.
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  • Posted by Doug_Huffman 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Who knows. How could we tell? How could we tell if the opposition was ‘hater’ or careful? How could we detect the purpose, ‘political’ or practical?
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  • Posted by oldtk 5 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    But the question is, will the Trump haters oppose it's release for political purposes.
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