Guilty on All accounts, riots and mistrial on appeal coming?
Posted by TheRealBill 3 years ago to News
So the jury apparently convicted on all counts, but the judge is already on record as saying that Waters' actions give grounds for a mistrial on appeal.
Some of the interviews there already have people saying it isn't over and they are going to continue being on the streets. Which I am sure is no surprise to any of us here.
For Gulchers versed in the law, what do you think about the likelihood of a successful appeal leading to a declaration of mistrial? It is just gobsmacking to me that the jury wasn't sequestered on day, let alone last week.
As I see it the defense attorneys have the following in support:
1. No jury sequestration in a wildly nationally public and hot case
2. Waters' demands of a guilt of murder or them being "more confrontational" in the streets
3. No jury sequestration when the riots started
4. Possibly the POTUS talking about them needing to reach "the right verdict"
5. Apparently (I've not confirmed) the non-sequestered jurors' personal information was released including their address last Friday or so.
6. The trial in a hot case with this level of violence and uproar around it was held in the very place all of this was going on
Now I admit my knowledge of trial around this kind of thing is decades old, but that sounds like a decent case for a mistrial, with Waters' remarks being perhaps the "final straw" as noted by the judge.
Now, on that, why they hell did he deny the sequester request, any reasonable ideas?
Some of the interviews there already have people saying it isn't over and they are going to continue being on the streets. Which I am sure is no surprise to any of us here.
For Gulchers versed in the law, what do you think about the likelihood of a successful appeal leading to a declaration of mistrial? It is just gobsmacking to me that the jury wasn't sequestered on day, let alone last week.
As I see it the defense attorneys have the following in support:
1. No jury sequestration in a wildly nationally public and hot case
2. Waters' demands of a guilt of murder or them being "more confrontational" in the streets
3. No jury sequestration when the riots started
4. Possibly the POTUS talking about them needing to reach "the right verdict"
5. Apparently (I've not confirmed) the non-sequestered jurors' personal information was released including their address last Friday or so.
6. The trial in a hot case with this level of violence and uproar around it was held in the very place all of this was going on
Now I admit my knowledge of trial around this kind of thing is decades old, but that sounds like a decent case for a mistrial, with Waters' remarks being perhaps the "final straw" as noted by the judge.
Now, on that, why they hell did he deny the sequester request, any reasonable ideas?
I did the research and posted regarding this months ago.
First, the basic facts: the jury returned fairly quickly with a verdict of guilty on all three counts: second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter (I told you I’m not a legal expert so I won’t try to explain how you can be guilty of both intentional and unintentional murder for the same crime.) A guilty verdict was hardly unexpected, given the emotional power of that video of Floyd saying he couldn't breathe, but not necessarily on all counts.
my comment - think about it.
He can only be guilty of one of the three changes.
- If it is manslaughter (absent of malice), he cannot be guilty of murder
- if he is guilty of unintentional murder, he cannot be guilty of intentional murder or manslaughter
- if he is guilty of intentional murder, he cannot be guilty of unintentional murder and manslaughter
from Dictionary
Manslaughter is a distinct crime and is not considered a lesser degree of murder. The essential distinction between the two offenses is that malice aforethought must be present for murder, whereas it must be absent for manslaughter.
This is a real problem, since society's natural controls have been "open circuited". Fights in school are not allowed. Inter-family parental correction is not allowed. Society is NOT ALLOWED to control anti-social behavior. That is "culture", and if you oppose it, you are a racist or a neanderthal. Thus, virtually everything must go to court and government to be dealt with, reducing the effectiveness, giving even more power to government, and costing more.
What is really needed is societies not putting up with people like George Floyd when he is 11 yrs old, not 35.
Biden influences the jury on national TV his election makes no sense. The whole event as important as it is , due to a nationwide riotfest and looting party for months. The George Floyd death and the way it was video is a total enigma. Why kneel on a guy’s neck for 10 mins? Why did the other officers just stand around?
The opening act made no sense.
The hero worship of a career criminal, makes no sense.
The absurdity and liberal privilege of the Dems promoting riots and the crickets 🦗 in the MSM calling them peaceful protests it makes no sense.
A horrible person , a kakistocrat like Maxine Waters has a voice of influence it makes no sense.
During the trial the city announces a massive ca$h settlement to Floyd’s family that the non sequestered jury had to
Know about makes no sense.
Dr Michael Baden coming in and doing a 2nd Autopsy , it makes no sense.
Baden is a technocratic tool of the deep state.
No change of venue , when the venue is a powder keg makes no sense.
However I am concerned about some of the justifications given for use of deadly force by some of the officers under the shield of "qualified immunity". Seems to be a "cop out."
Get out bulldozers, shovel up the rioters and use dump trucks to dump them at the city dump or equivalent.
Mogadishu covered in dollars is still Mogadishu. Nothing will really change.
Side note: I know a rather large US company somehow got convinced to go "woke" before the term was in vogue and gave all "minority" employees a 15% raise just in case they may have been discriminated against during their employment as well as a bunch of other benefits not allowed to white people. The company did go bankrupt and had to file for relief. It's still around but is a shadow of its former self and never will really recover.
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