The problem is that we get used to all the conveniences money can buy, most people are very spoil and instead of doing things-stuff for themselves they pay to get it done. They have to much time for thinking and daydreaming.

Gulch is more for the introvert, the extrovert needs more social interaction, spend to much time in the cloud and depends greatly on other people ideas and leadership.

What you read and see on tv is just entertainment and B.S., going Gulch is all about resilience and self sufficiency, not depending on government (feeding the monster) or other people to survive. You can talk all they long and pretend to be a smart a…

Start with little things, instead of buying crappy soap with fifty Ingredients, make you’re own soap and learn new skills that you can bring with you…..

Galting alone is a hard life.

katrinam41, I realize that it's virtually impossible to do anything beyond tiny projects on one's own. I'm putting crude efforts in that direction which are outlined here at https://quberoot.wordpress.com/ . My initial idea of a 'gulch' was just a bunch of closely co-operating individuals, a small town would be a next step ( heard of FSP ?). See if anything that I have put at the link catches your attention, if it does contact me, my email can be found on the link that I put.

term2, check the link: https://bit.ly/3HmNNhZ Or email CerrodelAngel, he figured out my email.
(sorry to put you through hoops)

Better than many places

Cesar @ patagonia . Farm

I did email you, but I think I didnt understand your email address. It had some unusual characters that werent recognized. Could you repeat it here?

First you need you’re residence and then apply for firearm permit, is expensive and takes time, but is doable.

we all have to face eventual death in one form or another

the other possible defense is "hiding in plain sight", as was shown in the TV show breaking bad- the main drug kingpin GUS, ran his empire for a long time in plain sight and wasnt caught

Sounds excellent! How does Chile deal with firearm ownership?

Separately, what is all this "medical issues" fear? Do we really believe medical service is better in general than it would be in a Gulch? If so, I would point one to the the fact that medical payments are at least absorbed 60% by administrators and non-service providers. Find this kind of overhead in another service industry, and I''ll show you the hand of government.

DriveTrain, you have a nice bunch of good thoughts. Implementing them has always been a real problem, as most people don't have the slightest idea what exactly is wrong in the world. I am no genius, no super thinker with great ideas, but I can recognize something when I see it, and think through pros and cons. How to move our family, friends and neighbors to our understanding has been the big bugaboo in my life. I have succeeded with some, not so much with others and cut off at the knees by a few. I am in a good position for life-changing moves, most people are not and do not see any necessity for any such move. They have trouble figuring out who to vote for, what each candidate stands for, why that knowledge is so vital.
The education system is so badly damaged that it must be torn down and rebuilt at a local level. I think you have some excellent suggestions to accomplish that goal.
Constitutional amendments are easy to write but hard to become law. That battle may have to wait for later.
I would say the UN needs to be dealt with first and foremost. Get out of it, quit throwing our tax dollars at it, get that one world pile of s... off of our soil NOW, with force as needed. I really like the way you describe this step so graphically. Good, post, good ideas.

Love that phrase! I was trying to explain to a friend the other day, why we have no Alexa, do not have the thermostat on wifi, no O Star in cars, no social media as such, no online bill pay, do not use Google for searches, live in rural area with 200 trees and many critters.Not quite as good as Chili, but are we not all subject to big gov takeovers? We are all facing smart meters, which Tom DeWeese and i have studied over the years and know they are bad for health, good for UN. We moved out of the city 40 years ago, soo many restrictions in town.

I think anything a person does that makes it more difficult for a government - which can only ever be: a group of other people - to surveil you, is a positive step toward reclaiming basic human rights. But as the comment from Term2 illuminates, without a full-blown defensive agency (read: government) of your own, no matter how remote your Gulch may be and no matter how benevolent the government in which it's situated, the fact remains that any thuggish government will retain the ability to destroy your property, your liberty and your life, at whim. With the advent and maturation of high technology surveillance methods, from these iBinkies and computers and other Borg-connected devices with which every one of us is surrounded, all the way up to satellites that can provide high-def video of a grain of dust settling on the snout of a standard-issue gnat from 10k miles up as well as penetrate the ground miles deep, there is literally nowhere on Earth you can hide. Unless of course you're in possession of your own leading-edge camouflage tech that's a hefty step ahead of the most advanced toys of the world's most powerful and well-financed intel organizations in existence. Which is unlikely.

So what is really needed is the same thing that's always been needed: Political leaders who are at minimum as radical and militant in fighting for reason, individual human rights, liberty and capitalism as the enslaver-ideologues are militant in the direction of irrationality, statist domination, slavery and collectivism.

For the record, we have four years' vivid confirmation that that person is not Donald Trump.

So far we - who have ethics on our side - have been losing by default. Which is contemptible.

We need leaders who are not just capable of such but are dedicated to innovating aggressive action in restoring Western Civilization and core Americanism. Everybody may have their own ideas - and hopefully you do and are constantly brainstorming for more - but what I personally would like to see, in general order of importance, are:

- An aggressive top-to-bottom overhaul of American education, with an even more aggressive goal of complete privatization, a complete Separation of Education and State. I envision a future in which a.) homeschooling is de-regulated, de-taxed and encouraged to the point where it has become the norm rather than the exception, b.) neighborhood schools, also unregulated and untaxed, ideally run by known and trusted neighborhood parents, arise and flourish, for those lacking either the skill or time to homeschool on their own, and c.) a for-profit educational industry, similarly de-regulated, de-taxed and encouraged arises and flourishes, for as vast an array of school businesses as exists in car dealerships, insurance agencies, restaurants, athletic shoes, microbrews, house paints, clothing companies or any other commodity you can think of;
- An immediate drafting and shepherding to ratification of a new Constitutional Amendment which mandates that no event relating to "public health" or "public safety" shall be allowed to nullify any other clause within the Constitution, in any measure, and retroactively;
- An immediate drafting and shepherding to ratification of a new Constitutional Amendment which abolishes residential property taxation nationwide, on the basis of identifying this latter as a human rights violation - which in fact it is;
- An immediate drafting and shepherding to ratification of a new Constitutional Amendment which outlaws any government involvement in medicine - also on the basis of its being a human rights violation - with a push to get it outlawed worldwide on that same basis;
- An immediate drafting and shepherding to ratification of a new Constitutional Amendment which outlaws any violation of personal privacy - whether by private party or government agency, unless authorized via all relevant due process of law (i.e. a court-issued warrant on demonstrated probable cause of criminality);
- An immediate nullification and selloff of all "publicly"-held lands nationwide which are not situated directly beneath legitimate government buildings and facilities, and nullification of all ocean "reserves" confiscated by government;
- An immediate investigation into the United Nations' "Agenda 21" program which was hatched at the 1992 Rio Climate Summit and which has been allowed to proceed virtually uncontested ever since;
- An immediate withdrawal, de- funding and expulsion of the "United Nations" from American soil, a nullification of all treaties and edicts involving American interests enacted by that noxious organization since its inception, with all diplomatic pressure available being brought to bear on our allies to follow suit. Let that pack of amoral tyrants lob their world-domination schemes at each other across the shiny tablecloth of a greasy-spoon diner on Kiribati or Madagascar, while the rest of the world forgets they ever existed;

- to name a few.
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I am not smart enough for this forum. I have read it over and over and still do not know whether I start with a phone call or a website or an email. I think that word, "How" is throwing one of us off.

With the spy capabilities of the current regime, Galting alone is a hard life. May I suggest a small town, a quiet town in a place away from big blue anything. Buying a home and land for a reasonable price, one by one becoming part of an already established community, may be an option for Galting in plain sight. Infrastructure is already in place, possibly a small hospital or medical center, local jobs that provide income, a place to grow and possibly sell food, build projects and do research ala John in the garret. We stay low, stay in touch, stay gray. Discovering a suitable candidate is one problem. The next problem is sharing that discovery without triggering a tripwire search engine.

My (initial) idea of a 'gulch' was just a bunch of closely co-operating individuals, who could either employ a physician or be trained in medicine. What the 'gulch' was NOT, is a secluded off-the-govt-radar place. So yep I agree that medical issues are a serious concern.( even though what the mainstream offers is mostly crappy medical care).

As you also pointed out elsewhere, defense is an important consideration.

See if anything that I have put at https://quberoot.wordpress.com/ catches your attention, if it does contact me.

Yeah, I am not afraid of the normal stuff.
(Cancer, T2D, Obesity, Inflammation, Alzheimer's)... I am avoiding them, and can work around/through them.

TBI(Traumatic Brain Injury) and massive physical/brain shock.
Dose me up, and let me go without draining the family resources.

My Living will says "If I can't stop my wife from Pulling the Plug... Then I EXPECT her to pull the plug!" (She missed the clause, where if she pulls the plug, she is to be buried with me, Egyptian Style, LOL).

CerrodelAngel, curious what do the residential lots cost?

Also would you like to voice chat with me? ( email can be found on the link that I put). I'm no where close to what you have achieved but I can keep you on my radar.

Secrecy (or at least not being overtly visible) is an important strategy, unless one has physical defenses set up.

Repost;

We have four guest suites for short and long term stays, $450.00 a week.

You get access to clubhouse with wifi, swimming pool, hot tub, gardens and walking-running trails.

Suite have, full bath, mini-kitchenette and a/c.

We sold four residential lots and I’m building the third house now.

very effective method of security. Loose lips sink ships, as they used to say.

Actually I was thinking locally, like some governmental agency deciding to intervene in your gulch for their own gain.

Rather than go thru a horrible painful last days with no possibility of cure, not a bad idea.

The difficulty could be a fixable problem requiring effective but unavailable medical intervention in a gulch.

I am not seeing all of the replies. Can someone forward me the one that answers the question, "How does one book a month there?"

In my circle we refer to it as "security through obscurity".