Thanks for the tip, some years ago I looked into a machine that would reclaim oil from plastic but the price was out of sight!

The alternative to producing diesel fuel is to build a small waste plastic pyrolysis plant. I have watched YouTube videos about industrious pacific islanders gathering waste plastic items from the ocean and what they have locally available to feed into a homemade Pyrolitic setup to produce fuel oil to run a diesel generator.

Love the way you think!...LMAO

OUCH!...but it just make sense...Natural gas delivery trucks running on natural gas and the same for propane delivery trucks....diesel fuel delivery is just a no brainer to run on diesel fuel...hell, gas trucks too!

Put all the politicians on such a coal fired train and halt it in a long non-vented tunnel.

There are European trucks and cars that run on propane as a clean alternate fuel, but the only use in the US is for forklifts and small gardening delivery trucks. Lots of UPS, FedEx, and waste management vehicles run on natural gas, and some cities use buses powered by natural gas. The only automobile ever sold in the US to run on natural gas was the Honda Civic, but it's no longer being produced. You can get your car/truck converted to use natural gas, but the price tag is about $5K.

Thanks Doc, never knew that.
I always wondered if Natural gas/propane trucks were actually running on the fuel they were delivering...

I need to correct one statement, which is about distribution of alternate fuels. Propane has a wide distribution network, as does ammonia, but the problem is still converting vehicles and shipping to use those fuels (both have been done in research programs, but none operational. Ammonia can be used as a supplement to diesel, and that eliminates the need for the urea emission control, but no trucks or vessels have that capability. We're still screwed.

Good. Convert 100% of the wasted cork oil for ethanol to efficient SVO in diesels. A lesser problem never existed.

Which of these synonyms would fit your 'inflicting'?

entail, force, impose, thrust

Perhaps you see it as your ability, keeping it on an individual level rather than your desire for how the collective Gulch will act, to reorder your life in order to inflict pain on others who do not agree with your view. You do not have my permission to inflict more pain on me by making me endure extra pain as you and others hope for greater market disruptions. Why would I want to change me life style because you get some jollies from your pleasure at the increasing the pain of others. Work for getting government and religion out of directing markets rather than your hope for even more interference, on an individualistic level, my life.
Or, perhaps you are trolling, in which case you have got what you were hopping for.

That would fix em! Laughing

"I did that!"
-- Dementia Joe

Good question, hadn't check nor have heard about the rest of the world suffering this shortage too.

Looks like it could get REALLY ugly in a fee weeks. Clearly this is all Putins's fault - not. Wonder what Trudeau will have to say about it. I may have to revitalize my hunting skills. Bambi could be in big trouble.

Begins to sound like maybe we should pull all the operating coal fired steam engines out of the museums for emergency use. Of course we don't have any of the water stations to top off the engine tanks on the way, or very many people who understand how to maintain them, so their use would be very limited.

Most of our domestic freight moves by water transport, but guess what those ships and tugs are powered by? Diesel, of course. Any alternative fuels, like propane, ammonia, butanol, dimethyl ether aren't produced or distributed in any high volume, and all require modification of any vehicle that uses them. There's no alternatives, so we could really be screwed this time.

Is this a problem around the entire world? Will countries like Russia and China have the same problem in the same time frame as the US. If it is just the US, other countries could/WOULD take advantage of our weakness. Fuc*** Biden lefties.

What, why me dino worry? Why?
OUR FEARLESS LEADER!~~namely Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr., PRESIDENT OF ALL THESE UNITED STATES is rendered incapable of error in his quest
to render down unto else that most sacred of religious quests, the Green New Deal.
Do you want our climate changing world to end in 12 years minus whatever years ago AOC handed down her epic prophecy from on high?
Me dino don't. You shouldn't either.
So why worry should all the grocery trucks in four to eight weeks for a lack of diesel engine oil? Be of good cheer.
Our Man Joe will find someone else to blame. Y'know, like he always does.

Our Dow Chemical was up and going in the 1930's.What is touted to be (I doubt it) the most affluent city in Brazoria County was built by Dow. Lake Jackson is ALL Dow Chemical as is Freeport. We have Dow, Monsanto, Amoco, Phillips, Texaco and a couple of other refineries all along the Coast of Brazoria County. We have a little fishing village called 'River's End' (Brazos River) and it is there and the fishing boats come in and go out every day. You can stand on the end of the road and watch the seagoing bardges going into and out of Dow. My son loved to wave at the merchant seamen when he was only five and had found he loved to fish. They waved and yelled at him. He loved that Ship Channel.

Oh no.....I’m not promoting electric car usage. I’m neutral on that subject. I’m just talking about inflicting the most financial pain on Biden voters as possible. I am confident that Gulchers will adjust their lifestyles accordingly. We shouldn’t have to...but there it is. I want to water my gardens with liberal tears.
If little Zoe and Magnus don’t get to go to Disney this year because there isn’t enough money for that sort of indoctrination.......that’s a good thing.

Oh OK. Dow Chemical is has a large presence in Midland, Michigan. I wondered if perhaps you lived there.

Interesting History, Thanks

I don't know but when I was on the City Council, I learned the west end of Galveston Island was in our extra territorial jurisdiction. I asked the Mayor if he planned to Annex it and he was befuddled. I suggested we cede that property to Galveston and we did.

If you don't work for Dow, Amoco, Monsanto or whatever the heck those other companies are, you don't make any real money in Brazoria County and it is the largest county area wise in Texas. Texas started here with old Stephen F. Austin's colony. Very historic. First Capital of the Republic of Texas. Little history lesson here.

Darling I live on the Gulf Coast of Texas. I went to Kindergarten at Camp Chemical in the far distant past. There are people living in this county that never heard of that. In Brazoria County people don't bow to God, they bow to Dow! My charitable health facility got grants from Monsanto and Amoco but Dow never ponied up a dollar.