Sorry about that acronym that has been used in the Gulch and a few other places. I should have offered the definition: the Main Stream Media (MSM) morphed into the Main Stream Marxist Media (MSMM) and is meant to be accurately sarcastic.

The video with the article is what I remembered seeing. For me, it was a WTF or Oh Shit moment. Perhaps you don't deal with ignorant people who get an idea and just do it People put poisons into their bodies such as ethanol, chemicals from burning tobacco and pot, etc. The body has enzymes to handle, for example , the about half once of ethanol produced in the intestines a day, after that it is a poison causing mind body symptoms which can be pleasant making one think I need more of that. It becomes a food when the intake of glucose is reduced to for some alcoholics. But still it is the dose that makes the poison.
Even the Washington Post's article had some truth hidden in it but mostly drivel accept for the video clip.

Sorry, is MSMM the same as MSM, main stream media. Could not find an acronym for that that fits.

I'll give you a point for bringing this to the discussion, but I watched the dialog with Trump live and I don't buy Reason's spin for a second. An unknowing individual, even if POTUS, blowing out thoughts for those in the know to address is something any curious individual would do. I never thought for a second he was suggesting people run out and take a bleach injection, but at that time I hadn't fully realized how much the MSMM has converted so much of America into an Idiocracy. The later statement about TRUMP throwing out crap for the I-Hate-Trump MSMM to lap up is probably a move made on advisement of someone on his staff to spin the spin of the MSMM. It seems "Reason" regardless of its name is still subject to unreasonable TDS when it fits their political narrative to keep the "bleach thing" going - more Idiocracy painted over in a nicely written format.

https://reason.com/2020/04/24/its-not...

LOL! I can't wait for the right moment to slip that in!

So... is "Don't forget to go get your booster" the new way of saying F off and die already?

The whole "bleach thing" was a media contrived I-Hate-Trump concoction to the detriment of some misinformed people. Disgusting misuse of the First Amendment on the part of the MSMM. Goebbels would be proud. Be careful what the MSMM says Trump said without actually knowing what he said and in what context. You may be being mislead.

I agree. With trump, I recall him saying when asked about nuclear weapons that if we have them, why don't we use them? I said WTF. We do use them as a deterrence of Russia and China. I thought he meant having them physically used. I cringed a little when he asked that because bleach can kill virus, is there a way to introduce it in the body. I thought that some ignorant people would do that. Sure enough, some tried drinking bleach out of fear of the virus.

Regarding the Collective personality cult-like behavior, I figure she was definitely a believer in herself and her own infallibility. Dare I say she became her own Stalin? As for me, I overlook those traits because she brought to the world something greater than that petty behavior. The same as I overlook some petty behavior in Trump, because he brings to the table something greater for America.

I learned of Rand and Atlas Shrugged in 1968 from a guy in my computer class. He had just had his subscription to the Objectivist canceled for asking a question wrong. Never saw him again because he had just gotten drafted.
I see Objectivism as a rational philosophy with a lot of true believers and haters but with a lot of critics who will discus it and not over look the early cultism of the Collective. The collective was discussed well in " The Ayn Rand Cult" by Jeff Walker and the alienation felt by those who tried to adhere to Objectivism and Rand's pronouncements as what was good such as in music, smoking, love, and rest of there lives in Sid Greenberg's "AYN RAND and ALIENATION", Former members and others close to those of the collective seem to consider Objectivism of great value but had problems with Rand and all of the religious like excommunications from the group.

I am not "locked in". As much as I do agree with her philosophy, Rand would probably toss me out on my butt for the parts I don't agree.

I agree we are being played and something has changed over the past few decades. I think the biggest change is the American Democrat party that once held the main tenets of what America was to be has completely morphed into the totalitarian communist party and the Republican party has been inching down the same road. Totalitarians and free people will always be at odds. It's an ancient scenario playing out again only with modern tools and weapons.

Also on youtube are many videos from the Atlas society if you are not locked into the belief that Objectivism should not be questioned or extended.

Also, youtube has lots of interviews with Rand and other sources dealing with Objectivism.

As much as I want to agree with everything here and do agree with much of it I still think we are being played. A lot of the commercials we see are "engineered" to bring out the worst of us in people. For years we had politics but we could sit down and discuss our differences and still carry on and be good neighbors and friends.
Somehow that has changed. And there are a lot of factors. Social media, bogus media stories are part of it.
People are people and it didn't use to mean you had to hate someone who disagreed with you. Something is whipping both sides up into useful idiots. Listening to Richard Dreyfuss on Glenn Beck the other day was most enlightening and he's a liberal. But his heart is where it needs to be.

Thanks for the heads up. I have the 3 part AS and The Fountainhead in my home video library, but not the other items. I'll look them up.

FreeVee also has the 3 part Atlas Shrugged movie, The Passion of Ayn Rand, Ayn Rand: A Sense of Life, Ayn Rand and the Prophecy of Atlas shrugged, The Fountainhead, ANTHEM: The Graphic Novel, and Hardfire's Ayn Rand Revealed. I have not watched the last one, so not sure whether positive toward Objectivism or not

Great subterfuge right.

It's my understanding the Chinese are not purchasing our farmlands or other properties to grow food. Their real estate of choice, with a few exceptions, is adjacent to or very near military or other strategic resources. Food, of course, can be a strategic resource, but if the US and China go head to head I'm sure confiscation of those properties will be a high priority (we wouldn't want a Chinese owned meat packing plant to be supplying our military if things go bad).

Don't forget the purchase of our farm lands by the Chinese. Stay locked and loaded.

I've had similar happen. Amazon as well.

They should be given 10,000 vaccines so they they cannot spread. I think Ho-cull is channeling piglosi with those eyebrows. Sorry you have a Grouch. My governor has succeeded in banning gasoline lawn equipment.

Good analysis!

Google is spying on me. They threw the beach scene onto my YouTube feed. 5 hours after my Kurtz quote.

I would settle for an honest idiot. I’d settle for President Musk unsealing files and revealing the truth. Nothing more nothing less. Ironically as the meme goes....They would hate him for telling them the truth. That’s how bad it has gotten.
Governor Hocul is STILL clinging to the narrative that the vaxxed can’t spread COVID. That’s a level of psychosis that you can’t negotiate with. Empirical evidence and even testimony from Pfizer disproves that assertion. Soundly I might add. But she’s doubling down while people wait 5hours in parked ambulances to see an ER doctor. That’s a terminal level of cognitive dissonance. Meaningful compromise is not possible with someone like that.
I’m in Northern Michigan. And my Major Metro is the infamous Detroit. If it broke off and drifted into Lake Erie the rest of our state would rejoice.
Our Governor GRETCH is barely better than Hocul. Gretch is at least pretending that nothing happened 2 years ago. While disingenuous at least it’s not in my face 24/7 anymore. Fun Fact our Sheriff was one of the ones that said he wasn’t going to enforce any of her bullshit. We moved about freely during the “pandemic”. The 3 friends I did lose to IT were because they were too stubborn to seek help when breathing became difficult. Because of the heavy politicization by the left. Objectivity went right out the window on both sides of the aisle.

Kurtz Reference.....Awesome movie. I am just insane
/principled enough to be a cross between Kurtz and Kilgore if unshackled. The whole point of that movie was that Kurtz was actually the good guy. He was like “Uncle Sam wants a body count as a metric? Fine I’ll give them what they want. But they won’t like it when they get it.”
He assassinated two South Vietnamese intelligence agents whom he suspected of being spies. He was probably right, because the number of unexplained American killings plummeted. But no matter. He's gone off the grid, and in the army, the chain of command is everything.