MAiD catching on in Canada. Soylent Green around the corner? Works wonders if somebody’s sick/depressed that you want to “off”—all it takes is a little coaxing (browbeating?) and a compliant doctor

Posted by bubah1mau 9 months, 1 week ago to Philosophy
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I know there are arguments pro and con; for one thing, the exorbitant expense of keeping someone alive if they’re already a vegetable (no comments about people in the WH or senators from Pennsylvania). But the obvious problem is the potential for abuse.


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  • Posted by $ mwolff 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As a proponent of a living will and advanced care directives., ultimately it should be a personal choice. Not the government, not society, nor an actuary or actuary table.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Write it however makes you feel good.

    I know a little girl with cancer who beat it. She had the whole company of 21k employees behind her, as her father was a senior, and well-loved business leader. It came back a year later and at 14 she said “Nope, not again. No more”. She was dead in 3 months. What a brave little girl!

    Another guy who worked for me had leukemia. One of the smartest people I’ve ever met, and an absolute workhorse. Went through hell. Marrow transplant and everything. He had it beat too. Then it came back. The treatments were outside his policy. He called it, rather than let his family be destitute.

    These are real heroes, not sucking the life out of everyone for a failed hope, and leaving their families destitute. The “fighters” sitting in hospital beds for 9 months are fighting with 90% of external resources, fear and ego. These are NOT heroes. They are cowards. In any other environment they would be selfish cowards. Our resources somehow sanctify them.
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  • Posted by 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My only concern is that the person considering assisted suicide has been given every possible opportunity to know, understand all alternatives--and that several doctors have confirmed no practical chance for recovery, regaining consciousness.

    I'm not opposed to the idea that a person can take his/her own life--that's just a final demonstration of ownership. I'm just concerned with possibilities for abuse, especially, most egregiously, political abuse (as some pointed out here), of assisted suicide--as I'm sure most Canadians are.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 months ago
    The only thing Canada has gotten right in 50 years!

    Of course there is the possibility of government abuse. What lacks the opportunity for government abuse? They already abuse this in completely different ways. Keeping old people alive at ridiculous expense is abused by virtually all capitalist retirement homes.

    There is no good answer, but wasting a college tuition to stay alive 6 months is just stupid. I’m not there yet, but am assured this opinion will not change even then.
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  • Posted by $ mwolff 9 months ago
    Wait till government decides when it's too expensive to provide the care for an elderly, disabled, or low value individual. Remember in Canada the healthcare is nationalized (Govt controlled)
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We won't lose any, unfortunately and sadly. None of them left the country when they promised they would if Trump was elected. And they'll redouble their efforts to do everything they can to undermine his presidency and to put him in jail. It'll be four more years of the same shit we've seen for the last seven years.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 months ago
    And it's not a far step from declaring a political opponent mentally incompetent and disposing of them under this. Dachau 2.0...
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 9 months ago
    But think of all the liberals we could lose, through depression (Doctor, doctor, give me the Red pill), if Trump is reelected...
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 months ago
    Me dino long ago read somewhere that if we and a whole host of other critters went extinct, the cockroaches would take over.
    Whoa, I just took a timeout to rethink that.
    Now me dino can think of a lot of places where cockroaches have already taken over. Some look like jackasses.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 months ago
    Laughing, IN THE MEME TYME MEME puts us inbetween Running Man and Soylent Green timeline.
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  • Posted by 9 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    Not me--willingly, that is. VHEM sounds rather terminal so perhaps it should be they who "go first"
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 months, 1 week ago
    We already have the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement that thinks we should breed ourselves out of existence for the good of the planet. https://www.vhemt.org/

    Lets see how many join up before we try MAiD.

    Who is willing to go first?
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