Military Manuel Trains That White Males Have Unfair Advantage

Posted by khalling 12 years, 1 month ago to Government
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this is what Thomas Sowell is talking about


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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmmm, perhaps. Though ultimately the question we'd have to ask is under what conditions is the persecution of minorities most effectively minimized? We obviously can't eliminate it entirely, but we can certainly implement measures to counteract it and provide avenues of justice for those who have been victimized.

    To me, saying that we should have no legal measures in place to deal with discrimination is essentially like saying we should throw open the floodgates to allow all the ignorant and narrow-minded bigots the freedom to persecute and abuse whomever they please, which to me just doesn't seem it would be in keeping with the principle that all men are created equal, nor would it contribute towards the development of a fair and just society.

    Of course we could debate the potential philosophical impacts of any decision forever, but in the end, public policy should based upon empirical evidence, and not ideological speculation.
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  • Posted by 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    a little tiny bit different when you are indoctrinating soldiers. apparently, women were left out of the awareness
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  • Posted by 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    maph, we are humans. there is no way to ensure how someone is judged. Do I have control over how you judge me? bias and prejudice are inherent in all human interactions. we each adapt. the more we try to socially engineer things, the more we end up dealing with reverse-prejudice and latent prejudice. it is ultimately a philosophical battle not one of force
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Alright, but that raises the question: how do you ensure that people are only ever judged by their merit alone, and what do you do when bias and prejudice can be irrefutably proven?
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years ago
    It’s going to be necessary for the next presidency to clean house from top to bottom of any idealogical remolding of our infrastructure. I hope the right someones take the job on.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That's a totally different definition of the word "discrimination." Yes, discrimination can mean to use discerning judgement, but it can also mean to use prejudiced and biased judgement. In this circumstance, we're using the second definition.
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  • Posted by 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    this is straight up social conditioning and it's the wrong way to go about anything! let's say one group is "privileged." the way to even the playing field is to simply look at each individual's merit. Period. no need to go out of your way to give one person a chance over another because *some* perceive inequality. that's just piling bad on top of bad.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    No... the opposite of "discrimination" would be "confusion". To discriminate is to be able to understand the differences between two things. One can discriminate *between* an apple and a banana, for example.

    The opposite of "privilege" however would be "obligation".

    If you have one group that is identified for what they are, say, businessmen, then one is discriminating between businessmen and non-businessmen. No privilege or obligation is attributed to either.

    If you have a group that is persecuted for what they are, say, businessmen, that doesn't mean that everyone else who is not a businessman is being granted any kind of privilege or being exalted.

    Let's use a fairy tale metaphor. Suppose you're an evil wizard, and you have two prisoners.
    You go down to your dungeon, look at your bullwhip and your cat o'nine tails, and weigh the differences between the two whips. That's discriminating between the two whips.
    You choose the cat o'nine tails, and beat the prisoner on the left. While he might be considered discriminated against, the one not-whipped is not also privileged, since not-being-whipped is the default state for both prisoners.

    In other words, having my rights protected is the default state. If your rights are not protected, you may be discriminated against, but I certainly am NOT being privileged, since the default state is to have rights protected.

    Merriam-Webster online - "the state of being kept distinct <in her mind there did not exist a discrimination between the imaginary and the real>"
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years ago
    "Privilege" really just means the opposite of discrimination. That is, if you've got one group of people who are condemned for who they are, and another group who are exalted for who they are, then the first group would be discriminated against, while the second group would be privileged.

    Really it's just looking at the issue of discrimination from a new perspective by putting the emphasis on the group who isn't persecuted rather than on the group who is.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    White people get plenty of scholarships... >.>

    Though I was really asking what Thomas Sowell said about the issue.
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  • Posted by 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    hi maph. there is no such thing as white privilege. we have social engineered whites into oblivion. they second guess every comment, they get no scholarships, they say I'm sorry every 3 sentences...they are truly pussy whipped. get in their line.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 12 years ago
    "this is what Thomas Sowell is talking about"
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    What did Thomas Sowell say about white privilege?
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  • Posted by tradesman 12 years ago
    The .mil is becoming just a .gov sanctioned social experiment. Time to go!
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  • Posted by 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    not completely single-handedly
    I agree the time is here for organized civil disobedience or ....wait for it-GALTING
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    When the POTUS acts like the C&C of a banana republic, ignoring the constitution, trampling on the civil rights of the citizens, overturning property rights through hundreds of ABC agencies, treating producers as nothing more than cash cows who exist only to produce wealth that he can transfer to moochers and on and on. The charges that he would face if it were not for his minions in the senate are legion.

    I do believe that I KNOW the path our nations founding father would have followed if they were confronted by this mess. He has, single handedly set out nation back decades. So far back that there is legitimately offered question as to the survival of the republic past his current term. We shall see.
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  • Posted by $ johnrobert2 12 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    My take on it is we are more inclined to try to do things in an orderly, rational, legal manner. To do as you suggest by those means would require the opposition be reasonably honest on their side. Since we cannot rely on that, the only other recourse we have is open insurrection, which we are loath to take. This puts us on a par with other banana republic governments whose sole claim to legitimacy is the gun. By the same token, should the opposition choose to order an abrogation of the Constitution, they will have placed themselves in the same position. (Not that it would cause them sleepless nights by so doing.) Then we would have no choice: submit or fight.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 12 years, 1 month ago
    At what point do we decide to take our country back from the kiddies and nut jobs who are totally screwing everything up????? I've never in my long life seen as much stupidity and nonsense like this as I've seen in the year.

    What has happened to us??????????
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 12 years, 1 month ago
    This manual is so wrong, and on so many levels.

    "This is the Obama administration’s outreach of social justice into the United States military,” he told me. “Equal Opportunity in the Army that I grew up in did not have anything to do with white privilege.”
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