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Posted by fairbro 3 months ago to History
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My experience in Ukraine & Russia


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    In 2012, I was in Lugansk (Donbass, Ukraine). I had gone to a food kiosk by the main bus terminal, 2-3 times, but the proprietor (from Uzbekistan) refused to serve me French fries. One day I got irked and implied he was prejudiced against me, being an American. Then another Muslim standing by me explained (in perfect American English - he was an Iraqi medical student) that the owner usually runs out of potatoes by this time of day, so he could not make me fries. Me smile and humbly apologize.. :)

    Fast forward to 2014. Maidan. The US "Deep State" under Barack Obama. led by the State Department's Victoria Nuland, engineers the violent overthrow of the legitimately-elected government of Ukraine. The first act of the newly US-installed President of Ukraine is to ban the Russian language and cancel the Russian culture. In reaction, Crimea and Donbass (including Lugansk), declare their independence from this new oppressive regime, which would make it illegal to speak their native language). After a visit by VP Joe Biden, Ukraine launches an invasion of secessionist Donbass.

    I see a YouTube video of my food kiosk, it is now rubble, as is the nearby main bus station, bombed by the Ukrainian Air Force. I watch videos of Ukrainian jets bombing downtown Lugansk, hitting apartment buildings, businesses, churches, even an orphanage (the manager was rightfully hysterical). The videos are up close and personal, quite bloody.

    I give some money to my Lugansk scammer friend so she can flee to Kiev (where she rapidly becomes rabidly anti-Russian). I went along with her scams as she has two little boys. Scamming is a way of life in Ukraine. The big scammers scam the little scammers. My personal experience in Ukraine is that trying to run a business is impossible for any would-be ethical investor. In the previous year I ran a small business in Russia, we were teaching English and outsourcing (development of websites). There were no bureaucratic payoffs necessary. My employees were highly intelligent and never took a sick day.

    In 2015, the kiosk video, its destruction, disappears from Youtube. I note that the most frequent visitors to the Obama White House are Google/Youtube executives. They are colluding in managing "the news." That is, "shaping the public perception."

    ALL of the Google/YouTube videos showing wartime atrocities and bombing of civilians, by Ukraine, disappear in 2015-16. Bloody and violent videos of Ukrainian planes strafing downtown sidewalks in Lugansk, and bombing large structures such as apartment buildings, churches, schools, even an orphanage (the manager was rightfully hysterical).

    Included is also a very powerful video of a young Ukrainian lass standing in front of a line of tanks dispatched from Kiev, about to enter Donbass and start a civil war. She pleads with them, and there's a group of local residents also calmly discussing things with the tank crews. "We are all Ukrainians, what are you doing?" "Why are you attacking us? etc. Finally, the lead tank begins nudging her, she loses her nerve and steps out of the way. Likewise a video of Ukrainian soldiers sitting in a foxhole, taking a smoke break, philosophizing, "WTF are we here for? We are killing our own people..."

    All thrown in the cyber dumpster by Google/Youtube.

    Russia, in 2014, provides anti-aircraft missiles to Donbass to bring a halt to the aerial bombing of Donbass. The Minsk Accords are signed to bring peace and an autonomy agreement for the Donass, but Ukraine ignores the pact, instead starts artillery shelling of Donbass, with 16,000 casualties (ethnic Russian civilians) over the next year, but the OESC stops counting in 2016. Western leaders who sign the Minsk Accords later all admit they signed under false pretences - they admit they were only interested in buying time, arming Ukraine, not seeking peace....... To corrupt the diplomatic process by being dishonest is now a good thing?

    ....Continue later, 5000 char. limiit....
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    • Posted by mccannon01 3 months ago
      Fairbro, thanks for the information. I've seen similar here and elsewhere, which is why I don't buy everything the MSMM has to say. I know the Kiev government has been bombing/attacking the people in Donbass long before Putin said "enough of this Schiff!". I've suspected for a long time the "forever war" faction in our country is in on the wrong side of this thing and the propaganda campaign keeping the Ukraine flags flying in America is working (for now).

      I'm looking forward to further updates. I'm convinced there's way more to this than meets the eye.
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    • Posted by $ Abaco 3 months ago
      "Likewise a video of Ukrainian soldiers sitting in a foxhole, taking a smoke break, philosophizing, "WTF are we here for? We are killing our own people..."" - Once that happens in America, if it ever does, it's over. The difference is that Americans, especially where I have moved to, are armed to the teeth. You can see the hints in American news now about states banding together to support Texas with the major disagreement they are having with the poopy-pants administration.

      What we are seeing via big tech on this conflict is most certainly not the whole truth. Who was the meddler? Who was over there promising big piles of American taxpayer money for special favors (and getting $1M sent back a year later)? Well...you know.
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