Christie To Win In Landslide Wants Republicans To Know Why

Posted by khalling 12 years ago to Politics
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I will be honest and tell you this article shook me up a bit. then I calmed down and thought about it. Reagan only lost 5 states in his landslide 1980 victory. 4 years later, only 2.
Because the east coast is an unusual animal compared to flyover land, I especially am interested in the opinions of those who live there. Gov Christie may be hugely popular, but he is a progressive, make no mistake about it.


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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you.

    The problem is... Republican = Democrat.
    If a Republican progressive wins the next election, it's the next-to-last nail in the coffin. Or 3rd to last at best. But the last nail is inevitable, if we don't start getting more conservatives in office.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years ago
    Hurricane Sandy was gut-wrenching. There is a time to back off from the political stance and just roll up your sleeves. He did what he needed to do. What Republicans could learn from him in my mind is that Christie’s dedication and perseverance will can carry votes. Republicans shouldn’t waste their time calculating whether or not Christie will run for president. He has said over and over again he will not. So...the question then becomes who would he enthusiastically endorse? That is a question that needs answering soon. Hopefully it is someone we can all get behind. Christie’s endorsement would go along way towards a victory. You may not like the fact he has been floating in the very moderate range, but he is still a Republican and it it would be a shame not to benefit from that. 2016 is going to be a determining year.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "Why do you care who Christie would “enthustically” endorse?”

    Because I think losing the next election to a Democrat is the last nail in the coffin. It really is the last chance to turn this ship around.

    Did I ever tell you I LOOOVE the way you use dialogue to make your point. Brilliant.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "but he is still a Republican "
    Newsflash... a lot of conservatives anymore, don't give half a squirt whether a candidate is Republican or not. Getting Republicans in office has done almost NOTHING for us for decades.

    Why do you care who Christie would "enthusiastically" endorse?

    James:"The consensus of the best metallurgical experts are highly skeptical."

    * Dagny: "I'm not interested in their opinion." *

    James: "Then whose do you go by?"
    Dagny: "My own".


    "Howard Roark: The creator stands on his own judgment. The parasite follows the opinions of others. " - The Fountainhead
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't think Rubio or Cruz are eligible to be President, but I keep getting conflicting stories on their origins, so I hold off on that.

    Rubio is so far on the wrong side of the illegal alien invasion issue that I wouldn't vote for him to be dogcatcher if Charlie Manson was the only alternative.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 12 years ago
    The Republicans have run two moderate candidates in a row. Mccain and Romney both were supposed to appeal to moderates and independents. They lost. We need someone who can separate themselves from the Progressives and explain the fiscal conservative message to the voters.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 12 years ago
    Democrats won't vote for a Progressive Republican, conservatives want a President they can trust to stand his ground on important issues, and independents would like to see common sense enter the discussion. I suggest Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, with his level-headed, less inflammatory style, and his trustworthiness, as the far better candidate. He managed to pursue conservative goals, keep his promises, improve the state's fiscal condition (which Christie has not, in NJ), and all without demonizing the opposition.

    I disagree with the writer's characterization of Rand Paul as an "extremist", as he's more of a libertarian conservative, and my second choice behind Walker. Ted Cruz, while popular, is as polarizing a figure as Sarah Palin (of whom I am a huge fan). Marco Rubio is a milder version of Cruz, and can use his minority status as the possible first Hispanic President, but the Clinton machine would find a way to devour him into a purely defensive position. I'd prefer Jeb Bush over Christie, if I was forced to accept a "moderate", but I have an intense dislike of dynasties, either Clinton or Bush.
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  • Posted by Spinkane 12 years ago
    You are correct. Christie defeated Jon Corzine who is as progressive as they come; you might know him as the guy who lost 1.2 Billion dollars of investors’ money with MF global. He didn’t have any idea what happened to the money when asked at the hearing. So Christie is relatively more conservative. Living up here is pathetic, but it is beautiful in the fall; all four seasons actually. As far as debt goes, New Jersey ranks behind California in 41st place, New York is last, it’s unsustainable.
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  • Posted by 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I already told you- I grew up in Mt. Pleasant. wow, that's pretty close by when you lived in Washington. Interesting about your dad laying the brick on the VH.

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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Where did YOU grow up?

    "Reagan only lost 5 states in his landslide 1980 victory. 4 years later, only 2. "

    DC is not a State.

    What fooling?
    My mother's family is from Muscatine; I grew up there, Washington, and Story City, and worked with my father all over the State. I remember watching the Bix Beiderbecke festival from the roof of some building we were renovating in Davenport.

    He, in fact, laid the brick on the top floor of the veteran's hospital in Iowa City, hanging upside down. Well, he and others.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years ago
    An important question needs to be asked, loudly and often:

    "Christie has been making that case explicitly, telling voters they need to stop expecting so much purity and look for politicians who will make compromises to move the country forward. "

    What direction is "forward"?

    The progressives keep accusing conservatives of "ideological purity". where are the pro-lifers, the pro-marriage, the pro-2nd-amendment, the pro-smaller-government, the pro-balanced-budget, the pro-cut-entitlement candidates in the Democrat party?

    We're called "ideologically pure" for having values different from the progressives. It's become a dog-whistle like "raaaacist".

    There is a scene stuck in my mind, from "Lawrence of Arabia". Lawrence and Colonel Brighton are sitting in Prince Feisal's tent, along with Sharif Ali. Prince Feisal asks for Lawrence's opinion, and Ali says, "Old fool! Why turn from him to him? They are master and man!"

    I think of that whenever the bastards speak of Republican victories. If the Republican party has proven anything over the past 30 years, it's that the Democrats and they are master and man.

    We came close to having a real reversal, moving things back to where they're supposed to be, under Reagan... and Reagan was in *spite* of the Republican party. The pre-planned candidate was Bush. So all Reagan managed to do was slow the timetable by 8 years.
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  • Posted by 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    ah, my dear hiraghm-he also lost DC. where did you grow up?! I know all the county license plate numbers, so you can't fool me
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 12 years ago in reply to this comment.
    What direction is forward? You've got that right. The great majority of politicians are much too activist for my taste. The framework for a minimalist government was laid long ago. That the country keeps electing people with big egos and big agendas that think we need to "go forward" and "make progress" from there is a large part of the problem. We are taught to look at the "caretaker" presidents with near distain and respect the "great" presidents who created massive spending programs to feed the poor, go to the moon, end the depression, and vanquish the enemy. Who are the politicians who are viewed as noteworthy because they preserved the character of the Republic?
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 12 years ago
    In 1984, Reagan took all but *one* State; Mondale's home State of Minnesota.
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