The Iran Trap: Everyone Wants Americans To Fight Their Wars For Them

Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 4 days ago to Politics
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"In my article ‘Iran vs Israel: What Happens Next Now That Shots Have Been Fired?’, published in April of 2024, I predicted:

“I have little doubt that Israel will commit to extensive aerial strikes on Iran this year or early in 2025, and we’ll see very quickly if Russian air defense technology sold to the Iranians is effective or ineffective…

The Israeli public position will be that their strikes are focused on taking down any existing Iranian nuclear labs. There is no solid evidence that Iran has made much headway in developing nukes (they might have dirty bombs), but the notion of nukes is more than enough in terms of public relations and justification for the war…”

Trump has always been the wild card, and he still is to some extent. His comments on the nuclear negotiations suggest that he is continuing to push for a peace agreement, but Israel put the kibosh on any diplomatic plan when they assassinated multiple Iranian military leaders (Mohammad Bagheri, Hossein Salami, Gholamali Rashid, Amir Ali Hajizadeh, Fereydoon Abbasi). There’s no going back after the direct targeting of so many high ranking officials, and that may have been Israel’s intention.

This is the same strategy Israel used against Lebanon in the now infamous “pager bombings”. To be sure, Israel’s ability to infiltrate enemy governments and gain strike ready knowledge on their leadership is impressive, but in some ways it’s also desperate. These are guerrilla tactics, not the tactics of a country confident in its ability to win a conventional war.
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The reality is, just like Ukraine, Israel cannot win a protracted war without aid from the US. In order for them to execute an actual ground invasion of Iran (not to mention Lebanon and a host of other regions throughout the Middle East) they will need US weapons and troops.

As I’ve mentioned over and over again, I really don’t care about either side. I don’t care about Gaza, I don’t care about Iran, I don’t care if Israel succeeds or fails. I also find Islamic fundamentalism to be authoritarian, degenerate and parasitic to the west, but if they stay in the Middle East then it’s not really my concern. I don’t care about ancient tribal vendettas.

I find people with an overt hatred of Israel politically suspicious, and I find people who worship Israel as if their government is devoid of corruption politically suspicious. I find anyone that demands I pick a side politically suspicious. I find leftist activists that hijack Muslim causes suspicious and reprehensible. I don’t care what goes on in the Middle East, and I think most conservatives agree with me.

What I do care about is America and Americans. It’s clear that Israel NEEDS the US deeply involved in any long term war with Iran, and this is where I have a problem. Everyone wants the US to fight their wars for them and the scheming is growing tiresome."
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  • Posted by mhubb 1 week, 3 days ago
    what crap
    iran has been at war with us since 1979
    to deny this FACT is delusional
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    • Posted by $ splumb 1 week ago
      Precisely, mhubb.
      Anybody who says this is Israel's war is dead wrong.

      The Iranians call Israel Little Satan, and us Big Satan, and their mission in life is to destroy Little Satan first, then Big Satan.

      They've been shouting it from the rooftops for decades.

      Iran is directly and indirectly responsible for nearly all of the Mohammedian terrorism in the world.

      This isn’t about America being the World Police, this is about saving Western civilization from Satanic barbarians.
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      • Posted by AZCowboyFred 1 week ago
        Couldn’t agree more. This is not just Israel’s war. There are tens of thousands of sleeper cell terrorists well documented here in America right now waiting to unleash their venom on Jews, Christian’s and anyone else who doesn’t tow their jihadi line. This is the age of hatred that blurs national borders. To think that we can be isolationists with a “hooray for me and to hell with thee” bravado attitude is as insane as it is stupid. I’ve lurked here for years and firmly believe that more than a few posters have never read Ayn Rand or if they did, fail to understand what she said. .
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 1 week ago
        This and a few similar comments have me wanting to ask this rhetorical question. And I promise I’m not trolling. Why didn’t we just level the place along with routing out our domestic sleeper cells? Really go holistic. Is the radical religious leadership still in power? (Ok, a few questions.) my own position is that war s/b a last resort. But if I ever have to shoot a person to thwart an attack…I’m following my shooting instructor’s advice…
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    • Posted by Lucky 1 week, 2 days ago
      Agree.
      Author Brandon Smith declares, several times- " I don’t care ".
      The caring is on the same level as the understanding of facts and analysis. I do not care about or for Brandon Smith.

      Fact- the refining of uranium for energy requires purity of up to 5%.
      For bombs 90% is required. Iran has got a good quantity at 60% and is continuing. (Data a few months out-of-date).
      International inspection is not allowed. The centrifuges are buried deep underground.
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 week ago
        Is this data from the same people who said Weapons of Mass Destruction would be found in Iraq?

        And Iran has been WEEKS, MONTHS and 2 years away from a NUKE (Like Pakistan has).
        For 40 years. What gives?

        Either our info is wrong. Our intelligence is lying. Or we are being manipulated. Which is all the same thing.
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        • Posted by mccannon01 1 week ago
          Don't know who down voted you, but I bumped it back up because it is a reasonable question. Whatever the answer, Iran ain't got nukes no more and the chips will fall where they may.

          I keep a reasonable supply of stuff. I grow strawberries, rhubarb, corn, beans, tomatoes, peppers and a few other things. The lady down the road has a great flock of chickens and a little further down is a really large farm and just past that are woods with a decent deer and small game supply. A little north of that is great fishing. I do live very close to a big city so that may be a problem. So, if the powers that be can't keep the lights on I, with a little help from close friends and family, can get by for quite a while.
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  • Posted by fairbro 1 week ago
    Now I can articulate why I have been disturbed about the Holocaust Museum since it was founded, especially last year when I was on the Honor Flight and that was part of the itinerary - the featured part. Never mind the website's contemporary anti-Russian rants, the Museum simply does not belong in America.

    Logically, it should be located in Poland or Germany, where the Holocaust happened. The Holocaust Museum is a glaring exception to the accepted practice of a memorial being geographically located where the commemorated event occurred.

    Placing it in America , not in Europe where the Holocaust actually occurred, lays a "guilt trip" on America. It attempts to fuse Israel's history and culture to our own unique American story. It says "Why did you not rescue us from tyranny?" Even that is a misleading premise. If anyone was responsible for not getting the truth of the Holocaust out, it was the media, not our government.

    Placing it in our nation's capital, and not in Philadelphia, NY or Indiana or anywhere else, in America, creates some sort of spiritual connection between "America" and the nation of Israel. But no, we are not obligated to support Israel and the
    Jewish religion, just as our government is not obliged to support Catholics or Scientologists.

    Imagine if we had a memorial to the disaster of Nagasaki located in DC? Or a memorial to Napoleon in Nashville? It would be oddly out of place. This is OUR country, the nations' capital marks OUR story, not another nation's history, nor a certain religion's history.

    If not, then where is the Museum of the Armenian Genocide? That was over a million slaughtered by the Turks. Where are the memorials to the slain of the Ukrainian genocide of the Poles in WW2, and all the hundreds of other genocides throughout history?

    Our Honor Flight seemed not about honoring OUR veterans, it seemed "diverted" - more about feeling sympathy for Jewish people (Israel).

    Simplicius says ""Something is rotten in the state of HasbarAmerica." And Israel is not our 51st state. If it was our 51st state, then that puts a different perspective on things. But it is not. If we continue being led around by the nose by Haifa, we can simply change a glyph in the name of the latest forever war (IraQ -> IraN).

    Whether or not anyone can agree with America's past and all the wars we fought in, we are a sovereign nation, we are not indebted or obligated to any other nation.

    (Interesting side-note on visit to WW2 museum.) I looked, and there it was, sort of discreet: "Museum funded by the folks at Raytheon."
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  • Posted by bz1mcr 1 week ago
    When people tell you they want you dead and they attack over and over, it's time to settle this. I am glad we have finally decided the time has come.
    If you ever want to live in peace, you need to eliminate those who want you dead.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 1 week ago
    40 plus years of “Iran is months away from a nuke” is gone in one fell swoop. Nobody died except the narrative of Iran being close to wipe US all out.
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