Vacines - Real Data, not religion and noise

Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 days, 22 hours ago to Government
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Here is some actual documentation of the nonsense going on in government, particularly when government power is fueled by corporate $. This is specifically why we need less of government, and anyone recommending more is either an ignorant idiot or totalitarian traitor. \

BTW, does anyone else think we need to update the categories for posts? The ones we have a redundant and incomplete.
SOURCE URL: https://brownstone.org/articles/how-cdc-and-fda-defrauded-the-american-public-about-serious-vaccine-harms/


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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 day ago
    100% agree that it is Religion.
    1,000% agree that they are lying through their teeth.

    Dr. Chris Martenson showed the Wyeth documentation where their vaccines were behind CLEAR "SIDS" cases. They got caught because the CDC identified a CLUSTER of kids in the same state. Then they got the same vaccines, and they were from the same bad LOT.

    How did Wyeth fix this?

    They now randomize the batch deliveries so that if a bad batch comes out, it would be spread so widely through the USA that nobody would be able to piece it together.

    Meanwhile, anyone who Thinks it could be related to some drugs/vaccines/treatments is gaslit to the skies.

    Finally, you all remember the bogus IVM/HCQ study that came out of the LANCET during Covid? We knew it was fake within days. BUT ONLY AFTER Every study of IVM/HCQ were stopped. Did the LANCET pull it.
    It had a purpose.

    This is just another clue. When the study DESIGNS are so bad, as to guarantee an outcome. YOU are being LIED TO.

    Proof. IVM was shown in India to work well (later Mexico, and Japan)... Every place that actually tried it Prophylactically.

    What study did they do:
    1) After waiting until people were on a Ventilator
    2) They gave them IVM and or HCQ
    3) The Dosing for HCQ was removed from the FDA website.
    4) The doses were way too high.

    Deaths ensued, maybe faster in the drugged group, THEREFORE they are DANGEROUS to use.

    A completely predictable Outcome. Bring in the propaganda machine to rage on these "findings".

    Remdesivir gets 100% the opposite treatments.

    If you trust your government. You are wrong.

    I'll go further. The information the people at the top are getting is VETTED by the SWAMP.

    MAHA is finally breaking this pattern! Kudos!
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    • Posted by freedomforall 23 hours, 51 minutes ago
      imo, there are no 'good' lots.
      The drug that is needed is one that affects politicians, company execs, PR spokespeople,
      actors, and journalists and makes their noses grow an inch with every lie.
      (Side effect:: a boon for plastic surgeons.)
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 20 hours, 33 minutes ago
        In Stargate, SG-1. There was an episode where the "citizens" were aghast their politicians may have lied...

        Because, in their world, if that happens, it is punished incredibly severely. And you are stripped of all wealth, your children and family are made to suffer financially as well. So NOBODY would reasonably be corrupt (The Risk is worse than any reward. A True Deterrent).

        THIS is what we need.
        Everyone in office should be Audited.
        And if, like Pelosi, they made outsized gains.
        They should be taxed by 90%

        (Ie, if they out perform the S&P, ALL of that extra money is taxed 90%). And if they LEAVE congress with a lot of unrealized gains. They are FORCED to realize them to pay the taxes.
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  • Posted by Abaco 1 day, 18 hours ago
    "We know very little about the harms of vaccines"

    I know quite a bit about them - not just from my own experiences and research, but from those I worked with. Aaron Siri is a true badass. What he is elucidating is truly disgusting, though. For decades the government (paid by Pharma) and medical doctors (same) willingly lied. The rest were just stupid...willingly ignorant. They damaged millions of children. And...now what happened with many recent harmful infractions in the United States...there will be no justice. Not financial settlements (my own impact from vaccine injury cost me at least $1M). Not an apology. Nothing. They won't even lift the liability release on vaccine injuries. They might as well just thrown millions of kids into a furnace - only it wouldn't have been so profitable. Leftists officials are even doubling down (like Gavin Newsom) by mandating that kids need the Covid 19 mRNA shots to attend school.

    The latest study I pointed out here - the Ford Clinic Cohort Study - is absolutely gut wrenching to read. It was so bad that the team who did it decided not to publish it, but shelved it back in 2020...just letting the damage continue. I'm not sure how so many people can be so evil. But, here we are.

    I like the use of the word "religion" here. Note how people say stupid shit like, "I believe in vaccines." That's nice. After the Ford study and the information from the ICAN network that's all you can do...believe. Just don't believe it around me...
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    • Posted by $ 1 day, 16 hours ago
      I used “religion” specifically to cover all forms of belief without proof or logic. The predictable failure of organized religion, drives the majority weak-minded to any new dogma by a charismatic leader. We need fewer weak-minded people, willing to work it out, not just take the next cute story as gospel.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 day ago
      BRAVO! Sorry you were hit as well.
      The doctors, after our daughter was vaccine injured, FOUGHT us tooth and nail about no more vaccines.

      She did get Tetanus. And in hindsight, I don't think I would do that again, LOL!

      It was at this point, when you do the math, it's rare that a doctor continues to see vaccine injured patients. For 3 reasons:
      1) The parents LEAVE the practice b/c of the gaslighting
      2) The parents LEAVE the practice b/c of the lack of care/options
      3) The doctors REFUSE to treat "unvaccinated" children "for their protection and the protection of their clients".

      #3 is what allows them to hide the most. In reality, the fear is "If someone brings their HEALTHY Baby in for a health check, YOUR Child could cause them to get MEASLES, etc."

      First, what a Statistical CROCK of CRAP. The odds are INFITESIMAL.
      Second, healthy babies should not go to the same place as sick children. Even our small practice (2.5 doctors), had a SICK side and a HEALTHY side. Effectively 2 offices.

      But the kicker was their constant refrain "She is older now, and all the evidence shows the risk is low that something ELSE is going to happen to her again". WTF? I want ZERO risk, not "low".

      Glad we are keeping it real, here!
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      • Posted by mccannon01 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
        My thoughts are if the vax and the mask actually worked, then why would the vaxed fear the unvaxed and why would the masked fear the unmasked? Fear (porn) is a strong motivator. I remain healthily unvaxed and wore a mask when I had to in public to avoid the fear indoctrinated from accosting me when I'm trying to shop or something.
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        • Posted by $ 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
          Like gun control, ignorance causes fear, and fear is no good basis for legislation or regulation. Teaching firearm safety in schools would help, but no gun control advocates support it. Same!!!
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  • Posted by $ 21 hours, 46 minutes ago
    Too bad we don't have a experimental "control" for a large population without COVID vaccinations and not shutdowns, masks or other horseshit. I believe we would find a minor increase in mortality among the elderly and infirm, but ZERO impact on the economy, and billions of unnecessary waste inefficiency overcome.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 15 hours, 3 minutes ago
      Technically, we have pieces of this. What Sweden did. Kept schools open. Kept the elderly/weak away.

      BTW, we had 2 perfect test environments.
      1) The First Cruise Ship (Diamond Princess). Those numbers held up, identified the core targets. 13 deaths, MOSTLY in their 70s and 80s. One person in his 50s. (3,700 people), ignore the confirmed cases, because they were not able to test everyone in time. Did no antibody testing, and it was way too early.
      2) USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71). 4,800 people, 1,300 proven infections. 1 death, a 41 year old.

      These were early on, nobody knew anything. Young, healthy people were NOT the target. It was clear.
      Continue on and check out the POOREST Countries taking IVM for parasites, and they were basically unscathed.

      Another study showed that the risk to a population could me measured by their ACCESS to modern medicine (which INCREASED the risk).

      Everywhere they rolled out prevention with IVM/HCQ the death rates dropped.
      India had 2 studies. Uttar Pradesh (where they got a Z-Pack, IVM, HCQ and Vitamin D3). About the population of the USA, and it CRUSHED our results.

      The other study was on first responders taking Prophylactic IVM. People Volunteered for either group based on what they wanted. There was 1 death in the IVM group, a few hospitalizations. the other group had like a hundred people hospitalized and like 15 deaths. This was a 20,000 person study. They were first responders, and were in regular contact with the sick/population. After this study, they rolled out the Uttar Pradesh stuff.

      We have the clear data. Enough to analyze. We WILL NOT DO IT.
      We were propagandized throughout. We must repeal that law that allows this!
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 14 hours, 57 minutes ago
        I saw the fraud this way:
        1) We confused Instance Fatality with Case Fatality! (Just like confusing Illegal Immigrant with Immigrant).
        2) PCR test cycles WAY above 30
        3) "Not vaccinated until 2 weeks after the second dose". I BET my friend. "You are going to find that there were a decent number of people who got the vaxx and DIED. So, they relabeled them THIS WAY so they could balance the numbers out, and show a Benefit to the vaccine"... He laughed at me.
        What did the papers show. If you DO NOT use that definition, then MORE people died who got vaxxed.
        4) Even if you have had Covid, YOU MUST STILL get the vaccine (makes ZERO sense)
        5) After the study. EVERYONE in the CONTROL GROUP was FORCE VACCINATED. EVERYONE.

        #5 is ONLY done if you want to HIDE something. No long-term, unvaccinated people you could look at, and compare health outcomes.

        I was at Uni during the AIDS crap show, led by Fauci. What I saw going on... Later I realized it was the DRY RUN for what Covid became. The parallels would blow your mind.
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      • Posted by $ 5 hours, 22 minutes ago
        Yes, agreed, but people with struggle to put the pieces together.

        I am never putting a mask on like that again. I had three shots, and still got COVID, twice. Such lying! Getting COVID was like a silly cold/flu. Little sniffles. Who cares? I’d take that again over just a month of the silliness.

        Also, now that we all know natural immunity is stronger than the stupid vaccines, I’m never getting a shot of that crap again.


        The problem, is zealots talking about abortions and vaccines causing magnetism who are idiots, demeaning our whole position. All this while the lies should have destroyed any other position.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 22 hours, 43 minutes ago
    Thank you for the article. The V-Safe app allowed the vaxxed to individually report on adverse reactions ... after 800,000 such individual reports by 10 million app users, with an 8% incidence rate, it should have been obvious that something was not clicking correctly in vax-land. But no, we just need different vax variants, we need a higher vaxxed population, we need boosters.... maybe lock down harder next time... more social distancing (engineering).

    Anyone recommending more State control is likely a combination of low-intelligence sociopath with a strong desire to control others (which is a form of envy manifestation).
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  • Posted by WilliamRThomas 1 day, 2 hours ago
    You tell BS by lots of empty verbiage and no facts except "some," which just anecdotes. The linked essay is just like that.

    It's sad that Galt's Gulch, based on novel by a writer who promoted objectivity above all else, has fallen so far into empty conspiracy language.
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    • Posted by $ 1 day, 2 hours ago
      Disagree.
      Hiding information is indicative virtual proof of misconduct, and there is overwhelming proof of lying. It is not necessary to show 75 independent studies to demonstrate an error. A handful is wholly adequate.

      You really want to defend the scientific basis for pharmaceutical actions or CDC et al Government decisions and use of force? The use of force comes with the burden of proof, not the use of freedom.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 day ago
      Do you TRULY understand why we have mostly anecdotes? Because we can't get the attention or studies we need!
      Our daughter was vaccine injured. Her 1 year vaccines hit her hard, she had 3 horrible days of fevers and issues ending in a stay in the hospital when nothing was working, with her lungs/throat inflammation becoming an emergency. From that, a baby that was never sick one day, was in the ER every 6 weeks. Suddenly allergic to her formula she'd been fine with. 8 Weeks of urticaria (my own research suggested pro-biotics, within DAYS of giving her those, the urticaria started resolving).
      Pneumonia Twice. Allergies that were off the chart to almost everything. (An completely over-active immune system).
      She missed 65 days of Kindergarten due to second hand exposure to allergens (like cat hair on another kids clothing, etc).
      She was on a nebulizer up to 6 times/day.

      I knew NOTHING about VAERS, I asked the doctor to report it, and HE REFUSED, we changed doctors. They wouldn't touch that aspect.

      It took me YEARS of supplements/study/testing to get her to 5th grade where she didn't miss a day of school. She is still wildly allergic to cats, egg whites, etc. etc. But we know how to avoid the issues.

      Later I learned I could have reported it to VAERS. The doctor could have told me. They estimate 90% of adverse reactions are NOT REPORTED.

      So, we are stuck with anecdotes.

      Please watch the movie VAXXED. Just learning that they changed the requirement from "Date the Parent Noticed the changes, to DATE the Doctor DIAGNOSED the child with autism", was used, on purpose, to make the vaccines look like their was no relation. Watch that movie, count the number of Videos that showed within DAYS a completely different child.

      We got lucky. I was able to research and absorb enough information to realize her immune system was in her GUT, she likely had a leaky gut, and to start throwing anything I could her way. And each small improvement was noted. There are about 4 supplements she takes on a regular basis... 25 years later.

      The PROOF is out there. It's in the FORD Mercy DB. But THEY will not publish it. Because it is damning.

      Every single case of Vaccine Injury, is only an anecdote!
      Prove me wrong?
      In order to publish the data. You need that option. And Big Pharma controls it 100%
      Watch the new video about how the DOCTOR knows his numbers make sense, but HE FEARS for his CAREER and RETIREMENT and therefore he cannot publish his study!
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      • Posted by $ 22 hours, 2 minutes ago
        Another EWV (thank goodness that twit is gone) looking for proof he is wrong ... with an idiotic axe to grind and with a convenient definition of "objectivism".
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        • Posted by CaptainKirk 20 hours, 59 minutes ago
          Yeah, whatever happened to the disproportion value of a negative result.

          It takes 1 vaccine injury to force people to realize they are not "SAFE" (ie, without risk).

          It takes 1 minute of asking why we give newborn babies a vaccine for hepatitis (a drug user/sex partner
          transferred disease). And it only takes 30 seconds when you learn they followed the babies who got the shot less than 1 week for "Adverse and Unforeseen" reactions.

          It's a form of willful ignorance. And when you "hear the propaganda in their arguments", it drives me crazy, because they think I am the one who was listening to propaganda. They cannot hear it in their own words.

          Finally, you know this. But my favorite was asking a parent who was attacking us (for not vaccinating our daughter), claiming we were putting their child at risk... "So, if you child is vaccinated, what risk is my daughter to you? Exactly what can happen to your child?" (She could get the Measles and spread it w/o knowing it)... "And if your son is vaccinated, what is his risk?" (Well, it's not fair he had to get the vaccine and she didn't)...

          Eventually it comes out. Because if they start suggesting the vaccine might not be effective... Then they have to ask themselves serious questions!

          But seriously, how deep under a rock do you have to live to NOT see this stuff?
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