We were talking about the CPB and suddenly all sorts of bullship pops up. Can anyone stick to one subject? This is the problem with all social media debates - Endless distractions and losing focus.

Public broadcasting , like propaganda is not about the public or its benefit,. It is about the political rulers and their bread and circuses pacification. My cousin's husband wrote songs for the CPB - Sesame Street and Barney. Did he reap any royalties or benefit for the songs they played every day for decades? Nothing, except his name on the credits and no further employment. Where did the money go? Miss Piggie?

If the public wants it to continue, all they have to do is fund it. We shouldn’t be forced to fund public indoctrination.

Oh, goodness gracious!
We can't be indoctrinated anymore?
The horror! Oh. the horror!
What can all the poor sheeple do?
Hey, but don't worry. Baa-baa still got its heehaws.
The Jackass Party still choo-choos along,
Hopefully to its own train wreck and not ours.

FFA, the big ships get into a TON of details that everyone overlooks.
Our Navy protects the shipping lanes from Pirates.
Somali and otherwise.

This protection has guaranteed that ships could become HUGE and COSTS go way down per unit sold. The HUGE ships must move slower, but become far more cost effective.

When that Navy goes away. Shipping will have to start utilizing ships that move FASTER to be a target for a smaller amount of time. Those ships will have to charge more to protect themselves. All Prices go up. Availability of things drops.

It is a FAR more nuanced situation than you are giving it. Also, we've all but lost the ability to make these ships. We get to re-engineer the process, and the educations required as we become more self-sufficient. Welding jobs pay well, and there are a TON of welding jobs on ships. Yes machine welding will do a lot, AND SHOULD. But there are some places that only a guy might fit.

The world is NOT a safe place. Most countries are a LOT LIKE Democrat Cities. They talk nice, but will kill you without a second thought.

The solution. Reduce our sphere of influence (Monroe), Build Better tools for the future (being done now). And acquire Greenland already (Preferably with a check).

But I like building some of the new ships because the world has changed, but we will still need to be able to project force to protect what is important to us.

Well, what you need is radar and missile coverage. How do you get enough radar there, and float enough missiles. A big ship is cheaper per missile than a small ship.
Then there is the issue of protecting the big ship. This is possible, but they need a paradigm shift for the lasers they have. They have 300kW lasers (going to 500kW). They need ~2MW. This is a physics problem. However, we can point 10x 300kW lasers on the same target without issue. This is not a problem, and with such a system, we can defeat hypersonics and drone swarms.

The last issue is cost vs size. If you look at shipbuilding costs, the cost of a surface ship is proportional to the tonnage, with high-correlation. That is why old-timers in government don't believe anything about lower cost shipbuilding. However, the cost of a cruise ship or other navy's ships do NOT follow this same trend. We need to get the RIDICULOUS NAVSEA organization and SUPSHIPS organizations the phuck out of the way. They are worse than dinosaurs.

For example, the Navy has it's own welding requirements and certification. If you want to make equipment for the Navy you MUST weld and braze to these requirements. Every welder and weld type has a separate certification. This means that the 1,000's of American Welding Society (AWS) fully-certified companies can NOT supply for any equipment going to the Navy. Who do you think knows more about welding, the thousands of people in AWS, who like IEEE or ASME study and improve welding year over year OR the 40 people in the NAVSEA welding code in 05? My brother eliminated NASA welding requirements and switched to AWS 14000 (flight safety) requirements. You can add an inspection on the weld, but not a unique weld requirement. This increased NASA's supply base over 10x! Just one stupid thing, but a perfect example of why we can lower the cost of our ships. It is NOT greedy shipbuilders, it is incompetent Navy specifiers and requirements.

If the prior Philly Shipyard, now acquired by Hanwah (Korean conglomerate and shipbuilder), gets engaged and we get NAVSEA out of the way, you will see some real affordability transitioning.

Certainly you could have superior knowledge. ;^)
Is the 'protection' cost and the construction costs of such ships the most economic use of scarce resources? Can the so-called projection of power that those ships arguably provide be done using more economic advanced technology?

I would generally agree, but think now (perhaps I have superior knowledge) that protecting a big ship, like a CVN, is possible.

We already have this problem, regardless of building BBG-47

Note, I did limit my restriction to big ships.
They are sitting duck targets for modern technology.
I think Trump is under pressure (by the folks who killed JFK, shot Reagan,
and shot at Trump) to keep spending on military. Ship building is also
a way to give union members jobs, a political and personal survival choice.
Unfortunately, it's a case of fighting a war from the previous century,
ignoring the fact that they've been losing such since 1945 any time the
opposition has any capability to resist past a week.

Well you can certainly cancel the Army. It has no role in foreseeable warfare.

We disagree about Navy ships. Although you can clearly make them cheaper... a LOT cheaper. The path to that is to get NAVSEA OUT of ship design and specification. They are incompetent. Just the welding requirements are ridiculous. They require RT films for certification. Digital (you know, like at your dentist) is not allowed. Tell private industry what you want it to do, and let them design and build ships.

About 50 years after the treasonous structure should have been ended.
It has been obvious (to anyone with at least half a brain) since the 1970's
that the CPB was a front for communist propaganda.
Funding it was effectively suicide for individual liberty.
Thank you to the current administration.
Now how about cutting the military budget by $500 billion a year?
Building big naval ships is a YUGE waste of money by the current
administration.

Indeed. I actually thought this would never happen, but here it is. If the Dems win the midterms or the next presidency, they may try to revive it.

Promises made, promises kept

It was a left wing indoctrination scam right from the beginning. Oh my! No cafeteria in DC with the sushi chef! Big bird may have to get off the dole and get a real job! Boo-hoo-hoo! Now the local propaganda outlets are going to have to survive on their own. They will be competing with the Main Stream Marxist Media for survival.