Ender's Game

Posted by $ johnrobert2 11 years, 6 months ago to Movies
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Saw it this afternoon. No spoilers. We'll talk Monday


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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Dang. I was hoping they'd restrict this movie to "Ender's Game" and then have future movies with the rest of the series.

    (Ender's Game - short story that appeared in Analog SF magazine 1978, and ended with the defeat of the enemy.)
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  • Posted by $ minniepuck 11 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    visually, the movie was very appealing. I saw it in imax and it was worth it. the score was also very good. Asa Butterfield, the kid who plays Ender, did an amazing job. He was too tall for the height Ender is in the book, (Asa is about 5'10'') so the message of Ender being a very young, small, kid was lost a little. Still, the acting made up for that. I could believe he was angry and conflicted.

    The story started out strong, but when they launched for Battle School and I saw Bean sitting in the shuttle, I knew Bean's story was going to be lost and there would be no sequel (at least, not a sequel that is true to the books). I know it's Ender's Game and not Shadow, but Bean's character is very, very important and it made me sad he was lost. The main reason this bugs me is because there is no chance of "Ender's Shadow" being made into a movie, so I was hoping his story would be included in this film. Not so much.

    It's just too much story to pack into 2 hours. The struggle Ender goes through the book was in large part gone. There is little to nothing explaining WHY what the kids were saying and doing was important. It felt like you just had to accept what was being told to you instead of believing it on your own through the action in the movie. I think of you had read the book, you'd catch a lot more than if you just saw the film. However, in my opinion, the film has to stand on its own and make the audience member feel fulfilled without reading the book. If I hadn't read the book, I'm not sure I would have appreciated everything briefly mentioned in the novel. For example, Ender's isolation. They TELL you he's being isolated, but in the vast majority of the movie, he's surrounded by kids. They tell Ender to let bean mop up the mess after a failed battle, but don't explain why it is Bean that Ender needs to trust. You don't see much of the struggle of Ender progressing through Battle School. It feels like he got there on Sunday and by Friday he was commanding his own army. Also, Peter's character is way more important than the movie got across. Bernard got more credit than he deserved. Bozo was just weird and his Spanish accent was Mexican, not Spanish. We lost a lot of characters. Achilles wasn't mentioned and Valentine was left on earth when Ender begins his search for a new colony in which to plant the Formics. My love for the book made my expectations too high, and I'm still not convinced it's a good stand - alone movie. It's just too much for two hours to do it justice. Nice try, but I'm mostly disappointed.

    The first thing my husband said after we left was, "that would have been an amazing mini - series." I agreed. They needed more time. When a novel is translated into a movie, portions of the book will be sacrificed to make it work on film. In this case, I think the cost was too high.

    2.5/5
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All right!!!! Not as good as the book (what movie is?). Essentials are there. That's all I'm saying 'til Monday when everyone who wants to see this weekend has a chance to see it. If you want to cut down on the expense, go to the matinee and don't buy from the concession stand.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 11 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The one question I want answered is:

    Is it another Starshit Troupers or Enema Mine, or did they do their best to tell the original story?

    Verhoven (may he rot in hell) turned Starship Troopers into a left-wing screed; Enemy Mine turned a very poignant and, in my opinion important ending into a (typical of leftists) screed against mankind.

    In the book (Enemy Mine), the child of Jeriba Shigan was returned to his people, who put in him a mental hospital for proclaiming his love of a human. And it was a human who combated the bigotries of two societies to find the child. And it was the clan leader who, in disgust, moved the entire clan to Fyrene IV and made the human the teacher of the clan's lineage to the children of the clan.

    A lot deeper than freeing an alien child from a pack of evil human miners who can't figure out a better way to mine minerals than enslave alien children.

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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wasting my money would piss me off... Is it worth it or not? I trust your judgement (some times).
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 11 years, 6 months ago
    I read the book when it came out. The story was compelling. I know of the many sequels but lost track of the arc after Speaker for the Dead.

    Of all the nerd-who-does-well science fiction, Ender's Game probably speaks best to and for the current generation.
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  • Posted by $ minniepuck 11 years, 6 months ago
    thanks. I'll see it Saturday and don't want anything revealed.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Up to you. No spoilers. I want you to see it without preconceptions. That way you have an honest look at it.
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