I've been involved in a couple of Federal Grand Jury cases, and can verify they're nothing but kangaroo courts used to promote the careers of prosecutors and justices. I was pressured to perjure myself, and when I refused, charged with being an "unindicted co-conspirator". That charge was only dropped after I threatened to disobey the non-disclosure order and go directly to the Washington Post with the story. Since my personal record is absolutely crystal clear, the judge decided she couldn't risk my credibility causing them trouble.

The Judicial System exists for the purpose of: a) Protection from force and fraud AND b) Prosecution of those who engage in force and fraud.

When the Justice System is used for perversion of the law and persecution of the citizens then it has become the primary criminal element in our lives.

I hate to say it , but nothing shocks me any more. Sickens, enrages, disapoints, but these types of activites seem to be the norm for our entire gov. these days.

it's somewhat the same scenario for Gibson Guitars. Once one agency gets involved they all tag team and gang up. The prosecutor in The GG case said-we will win no matter what. and GG settled without ever even being charged. Frankly I see it as a pure power grab. It serves to tell every other business and private citizen we are here to control you. You work for us, not the other way around.
13 federal judges recused. People need to go to jail if this is proven in court. and what about the kickback to the fire investigators? that's a pretty big smoking gun...

$5Au's guess is the reason the Feds conspired to railroad Sierra was that they want to placate their environmentalist friends by taking 22,000 acres out of timber production. This Judge England has a pair of big, brass (maybe gold) ones!

It is a good sign that the judge in CA was willing to act.

I don't know fully understand the motivation for the corruption. Sierra says DoJ wants to recover the fire fighting costs. They're going after Sierra, Sierra says, b/c a) they didn't contribute to anyone politically connected to DoJ, b) they have deep pockets, and c) they could plausibly be framed for it. Why do DoJ employees care about recovering some costs of fighting fire? Usually the Fed gov't has the mindset of it being _only_ 55 million dollars at stake. It's hard to imagine the employees would be willing to risk their reputations to pull this off.

I'm open to the idea, though, that their prosecutorial power went to their head, and they felt like they were above the law.

A legal system, perhaps, a justice system, no.

It surprises me that people are shocked when these things are uncovered. Our legal system, as so many of our institution, has been corrupted, both from within and without. IMO

It's time to wake up and realize we don't have a legal system in the US.

here is a link to the actual judge's order:
http://licensedtolie.com/2014/10/15/sier...

so far just an op-ed in the NYT?