Police Infuriated About New “Cop Detecting” Device That Warns People When a Cop is Near
Posted by Phlembol 10 years, 9 months ago to Technology
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Jan
I am intrigued by your name, "Phlembol". Is it a contraction of "phlebotomy" and "embolism"?
Jan
I still have trouble forcing myself to use spaces in Ids and such online
btw - woops would be West Point. Also called woo-poo-u, or woops to us grads.
I tried out one of these systems on a trip from NY to PA and had many false alarms, and it missed a lot of police cars.
In NJ, the freq was so strong from thier cars that it went off even when they were miles away.
A waste of money for people in the U.S.
I question how well it would work. If you open it up to many types of frequencies and trunking systems, you'll get false positives. If you narrow it down to systems used by majors cities, you'll get false negatives. Also, it should only work when they key the transmitter, unless trunking systems have changed radically since I used to play with them back when electronics was an avocation.
Of course some responders - most around here other than LEO's - have "dumb" vehicles, i.e. radios that only transmit when the radio is keyed up. Others use their cellphones for business comms - for all the flaws in that (and there are many) it's becoming a first line comm device for some LEO units.
It's a neat gadget, especially in Europe where everything is dispatched via computer link, but here, especially rural here, I'm not sure it's money well spent. Unless you're hiding from the law...
Now, if that can be tweaked to mil freqs, it might have some utility right before they start rounding up the former patriots now known as evildoers... --giggles--
Besides, it's probably illegal in VA, and CA, OR, WA.
You have your roles reversed. The people who need to be monitored are government officials. THEY WORK FOR US
and you don't have a right to know what your neighbor is doing all the time. But I have EVERY right to know what my police are doing
Their primary work is coming in after a crime has already happened and cleaning up the mess in whatever manner is needed.
I find your comment a bit condescending. One does not need to be in law enforcement to understand their work or how they perform it. A citizen has a right to an opinion regarding how every public servant operates and making their job easier is not criteria sufficient to deny citizens a means to oversee and observe that function, nor to be warned of their presence. This technology could be abused, like any other, but it also has advantage as the article points out of having most users check their behavior and thus improve safety for all. The police can't prevent crime. They can only come in and clean up afterwards. The only way one might argue that they can prevent crime is by making their presence known (high visibility), by driving the roads and walking the beat, not by sitting behind a road sign waiting to pounce like a thief in a dark alley. How did we ever get by before LEOs had the use of electronic technology... when we were all on even footing? I do not blame the Cops generally who are only doing their jobs as directed. I blame the officials that set the policy and force police to be revenuers instead of peace officers.
Truckers have been using their radios for years to warn others of police presence. How is this different?
And, as far as if you are "not doing anything wrong" you have nothing to worry about... this flies in the face of all of the wrongly accused, incarcerated and those whose property has been confiscated through forfeiture laws without due process... mistaken identity and many other factors come into play.
Police are imperfect humans also. They are not all angels. "If men were angels, no government would be necessary." - James Madison
Respectfully,
O.A.
I don't think you've spent enough time in here to tell us what we're "all missing".
Sit down!
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minus 1 for ignorance and telling me not to comment on your ignorance
In so far as that Unconstitutional Alphabet Soup Centered in Washington, none of it is Constitutionally Legal, and if ever we get a Congress and a President with cohunes, they'll roll things back to John Quincy Adam's time and we'll be on the right track again.
Too much has been done in the name of personal profit and "Pocatello Fever," we and all of our ancestry are all responsible for the travesty that we call Washington, and if we are not careful, we will all pay for it.
As to DC, can't argue with much of that, but no Congress and President will ever be able to 'roll things back'.
Faith-bah. Just like superstition.
I knew an atheist during Op. Iraqi Freedom, and one during particularly fun ride near Najaif, he asked my gunner, who wore a cross openly, to help him pray.
Yea, religion may be "the opiate of the masses," but damned if it ain't a good drug.
The US Constitution does not directly authorize any federal police force. Grant and Roosevelt did that themselves, illegally, and unconstitutionally, daring the congress to defund them, the US Secret Service and the FBI respectively, were illegal long before patriot act made them criminals.
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Should a person walking down the street with an AR 15 slung over his back be harassed by police?
If this statement were true and some humans were paragons of virtue, we could give them unlimited powers to investigate and punish crimes. Unfortunately, humans are flawed. We create institutions with checks and balances that try to overcome those flaws.
Can we get a camera over your toilet, shower, and bed? If you're not doing anything wrong in there, you should mind our watching.