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All An Ayn Rand Hero Really Wants Is Love

Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 8 months ago to The Gulch: General
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Looks like an interesting book.

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  • Posted by richrobinson 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks OA. I sent an e mail to the author and I hope he will let us know when it is released. I told him I would post it here.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you.
    1. Yes. He needs approval or at least some reaction. Toohey is the master of manipulative influence.
    2. I thought his career was hopelessly broken by that point. I don't remember if he had any hope of coming back.
    3. I didn't understand why he was acting like that and only vaguely understood he and Toohey treated her that way or why it caused her bizarre change in personality. He and Toohey are amazing villains, much scarier than tough-guy villains.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 10 years, 8 months ago
    Hello richrobinson,
    That was great. It was so good in fact, I saved it to my Rand file.
    When/ if anyone hears about the completion and release of the book, I would appreciate an update.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    1. Peter has no independent judgement. He needs approval. Toohey has been the standard to his importance
    2. Toohey has had the power to make or break his career.
    3. Peter doesn 't value himself enough to have valued his relationship with Toohey 's niece
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I meant why *does* Peter want Toohey to stay even after Toohey admits to being evil. Maybe it's b/c the evil form of altruism took his g/f away, and Toohey represents that evil altruism. I don't know. I couldn't understand why Peter cared about Toohey.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The com/soc/prog have been doing it for at least 120 years. But they have had full time Alinskys to drive them. Our problem is that we are busy creating tomorrow while they work full time creating the past. Rand was making a point in A.S. but it cannot be done in one generation. It will take many years of dedication to return the USA to freedom. Unless, of course, you forget about America and concentrate on Atlantis.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    oh, no! they hide in plain sight, like the truck driver
    and his mate in the black-out cab, the waitress
    with her husband who works at sears changing
    tires and batteries, and the CEO who appears to be
    single, but who meets with his small business owner
    wife on weekends when everyone thinks that he
    is slaving away in the penthouse over P&L and
    marketing study reports. . they are everywhere!!! -- j

    p.s. proof? the nov4 vote.

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  • Posted by $ jlc 10 years, 8 months ago
    I would phrase it differently, since I think of 'love' as a type of romantic relationship that easily transcends philosophies. (I observe this; I would not personally want a man for a lover who was out of synch with me philosophically.) Saying 'all he wants is love' makes the putative hero seem like a needy puppy...not my idea of a hero.

    I would say that 'What a Rand hero really wants is to be amongst members of his own 'species'.' This is why we congregate here in The Gulch. To be able to talk to our own tribe.

    Jan
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It does work. The only problem is that heroes and heroines are not always readily apparent.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    it's why I worked so damned hard at school, then
    at work, and tried to learn all that I could about
    everything worthwhile ... for her, whoever she
    might be, to join me in enjoying it all. . worked!!! -- j

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  • Posted by johnpe1 10 years, 8 months ago
    what's it all for? . the poetry of a man and a woman
    sweating all over one another, making a child and
    staying together to raise her, or him, to additional success! -- j

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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago
    "Ayn Rand rejected most of the conventional categories into which philosophical and political positions are supposed to be sorted, and this rejection of false alternatives is a major theme of her work. "

    "Incidentally, this is why most parodies of Ayn Rand end up seeming so lame. "

    "In Ayn Rand’s novels, all the heroes are rich and the bad guys are poor, right?
    It’s closer to the opposite."
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 8 months ago
    This is one of my favorite articles I've read about Ayn Rand.
    It made me think about Peter Keating in the Fountainhead. Why doesn't he want Toohey to stay after Toohey admits to undermining achievement just because he can? Maybe all Keating wants is love and friendship too, but he went about getting it the wrong way.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 10 years, 8 months ago
    One of the concepts that had a powerful impact on me is (paraphrasing) if you think of yourself as a hero, you'll seek a heroine for a mate. I found that in order to think of myself as a hero, I needed to acquire much different knowledge and attitude, and it was the beginning of what was for me, a transformation.
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 8 months ago
    ".....that any value you might find outside your work, any other loyalty or love, can only be travelers you choose to share your journey and must be travelers going on their own power in the same direction." ..... Excerpt from Galt's speech. A very profound point I think.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 10 years, 8 months ago
    I saw The Fountainhead as a Netflix snail-mail DVD about two weeks ago.
    Spoiler alert!
    I loved that worker's elevator scene at the end when the star-crossed lovers were at last uncrossed on the highest building of the world.
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