The only proper educational system for a free people must consist of home-schooling and private, non-unionized non-government regulated schools. Anything else is dictatorial.
I dislike the headline. To be honest, I'd like to "fundamentally transform America's education system" too. I'd like to privatize it. Don't fight the fact that they are changing it to what you don't like, fight the fact that they get to decide.
They get to decide, only if you let them. Fully 11% of children are NOT in any public system. (http://sitemaker.umich.edu/kort.356/home...) "In the United States in 1999-2000, there were 27,223 private schools, including secular, non-secular, and charter schools. Of these schools, approximately 78% are religious schools (Dowling). The U.S. Department of Education estimates that 5.9 million children attend private schools, in contrast to the 47.6 million students who attend public schools (Kafer). Approximately 84% of private school students are attending schools with a religious affiliation, while only 16% attend secular schools. For more information on education, visit the Education section of The Heritage Foundation's website." (http://www.heritage.org/issues/education...)
If you cannot afford a private school, you might be able to start one.
That's a good point. Maybe you can answer a question for me, does the government regulate what kids must learn in private schools and home schooling? Do they have requirements about what parents MUST teach their kids? I honestly don't know.
I hear in Sweden or Denmark they don't allow home schooling it's illegal.
The EU doesn't allow home-schooling, that is true. There was a big asylum case where a family from Germany wanted to home-school in the US and Obama wouldn't protect them. They got sent back to Germany and the kids were confiscated and sent to public indoctrination.
There are certain standards for home-schooling which are government-mandated, yes, but they have far less control over the course materials than in "public" education. We knew several home schoolers and they selected course materials from various providers and worked with their kids to get things done.
What should be emphasized is that home schooled children score better on average than publicly-schooled children on the standard college entrance exams (SAT/ACT). And the margin is statistically significant (it's like 80 points on the SAT and 2-3 on the ACT).
The easy answer is "I don't know." Each state of the union is different in their requirements. You may need to have state-licensed teachers in all classes, or maybe just one for the school. You would have to look at your own locale, maybe talk to private schools or homeschoolers.
Your state government websites probably make that easy enough to find. I put PRIVATE SCHOOL LICENSE IN TEXAS into Google and found quite a bit from the state and from private associations for private education.
It has been a few months since I crunched the data on natioanl school systems, but as I recall, you are right: private schools must teach the state curriculum, so maybe homeschooling is forbidden, also. It is probably like that in most of the world.
We inherited the English system of no system which survived sweeping reforms that nationalized education in France, Germany, etc., etc.
While everyone argues about who should be improving America's education system and/or what curriculum should be used and/or who should pay for what (plus public or private)... the list goes on and on... other just rolled up their sleeves and GOT THE JOB DONE.
Have any of you heard about the Delphian School in Oregon?
The one thing most education professionals, proponents, and parents sending their children to schools seem to agree on is that Delphian is the single most advanced school in the world.
The company Heron Books is their materials supplier, and Heron also supplies home schoolers as well:
The Delphian curriculum is so much in demand that they decided to "package up" their curriculum so that other schools around the U.S. could open similar schools around the country, and Delphian monitors that anyone using this curriculum is doing it "standardly" per the original. This has come to be known as the "Delphi Network" of schools around the U.S.
These are private schools, and at present they are all fairly expensive. However, as more and more of these open up, the prices will go down, just by the laws of supply and demand.
You can go on arguing all you want, and worry about Obama screwing it up (which he would), or just support with all your energy the people who are already getting the job done.
Here are your real life John Galt, Hank Reardon, Dagney Taggart, Francisco D'Anconia. I sincerely hope you'll support them, as schools like Delphian are our only hope for a sane future.
It should tell you something that Bill Ayers was a speaker at the launch of Common Core, Do you doubt his crafty Marxist hand in this? Forget any escape hatch, there is none. All education will be subject to Common Core standards, that includes homeschooling and private. This is truly a federal move - why else would Obama promote it? Textbook, are you kidding? The goal is to have all students online with the parents having nothing to examine. Like in "Anthem", books will disappear. History lessons will omit some of our founding and military heroes in favor of Marxists. I have seen a video of math in a Common Core classroom, where the teacher explains to the class that it does not matter what answer, as long as you can explain why you got the one you got.Wonder if that applies to future doctors as well - oh well, with Obamacare, we won't have any medical care anyway. As the article said, yes, everyone will go to college, and a degree will be like the US dollar - devalued. All will be dumbed down so all may show a college degree. You can't say share the smarts, so you just make sure no one has any. Hillary said it takes a village - right, a village of idiots to allow this to happen to their kids, right under their noses. Oh, they are not your kids anymore, they are world citizens. In case you wonder, they will also have their attitudes adjusted, to make sure they are right thinking - really. Read as much as you can on the origins, who supports and pays for Common Core, and the details.
Again, short story.... friends in Silicon Valley had their four kids in a parochial school and were paying something in excess of $10k a year for each, and the kids had good grades and were happy.
Moved to Spring, Texas, for work reasons and immediately needed tutors for several of the kids so they could "come up to speed with the locals..."
If there were ANY good in Common Core, it would be to provide some standardized testing AND REPORTING so parents across the country could tell if their schools were doing a good or bad job of educating the kids!
Common Core or not...there is NOTHING to be learned from Standardized Testing. It's a racket: parents, some teachers, and lots of administrators have been persuaded that a momentary snapshot can tell them what a person knows. <gagging noise>
I agree that you do not know what Common Core is. As I said on my blog: "If “Common Core” had been discovered in the yellowed pages of a 19th century Presbyterian teachers’ college from Ohio, political conservatives would be insisting that it be instantiated immediately." (http://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/2013/...)
The article cited in this topic is from an opinion magazine published by Thomas Aquinas College, ffrom which it took this quote: "A nation is permitted to keep its surface culture, such as language, music, and cuisine. But patriotism, religion, and individualism are anathema, as each competes with the globalist vision of world harmony. Moral codes that cannot be adapted to a multicultural vision, agreed upon in a world congress, must be jettisoned."
That did not come from any "Common Core" document. It was the assertion of Mary Jo Anderson in "Crisis" magazine from Thomas Aquinas College, which was then quoted by this Breitbart editorial.
Here is the link to the Common Core State Standards website: http://www.corestandards.org/ If you want to argue it, at least get the facts.
Yeah Mike, I'm basing my entire opinion of Common Core on this one article. The Gov, or the U.N. for Christ's sake, should NOT be calling the shots in education. EVER!
I am sure that you have read very much about this. My point is only that the source material is easily available. I understand from the discussions here that you are a teacher. If that is true, then you are in an excellent position to offer your own critical analysis of the content of "Common Core." I believe that if you do, you will find very little to criticize. But I could be wrong.
"Q: Who leads the Common Core State Standards Initiative?"
"A: The nation’s governors and education commissioners, through their representative organizations the National Governors Association (NGA) and the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO) led the development of the Common Core State Standards and continue to lead the initiative. Teachers, parents, school administrators and experts from across the country together with state leaders provided input into the development of the standards."
"Q: Who was involved in the Common Core State Standards Initiative?
A: States across the country collaborated with teachers, researchers, and leading experts to design and develop the Common Core State Standards. Each state independently made the decision to adopt the Common Core State Standards, beginning in 2010. The federal government was NOT involved in the development of the standards. Local teachers, principals, and superintendents lead the implementation of the Common Core." From their FAQ here: http://www.corestandards.org/resources/f...
It not a "government effort" but rather a non-governmental organization, an NGO.
I agree with your basic position that this is beyond the proper scope of government, but so are airports and yet our safety is a concern of the International Civil Aviation Organization, which is comprised of representatives of government aeronautics and aviation agencies.
It was long a fundamental talking point of Ayn Rand's that taking on ad hoc political arguments will do nothing for freedom until the implicit philosophy of the general culture is aligned to reality and reason.
Actually, if you do the research, nothing about Common Core was actually researched. Teachers were not involved, neither were parents or students. And the researchers proposing common core didn't get any of their work peer-reviewed.
Common Core is all about Federal control of education. They want to dictate the textbooks kids learn from and the material they must study. You should look at some of the proposed material and tests - much of it revisionist history.
That is covered in the videos I posted to Mike. And some teachers and principles are ridiculing the Tea Party and parents who object. It's amazing the loyalty you can buy with a promised pension. I really wish parents would give a shit and start pulling their kids from public schools in record numbers...make it collapse! But I have little faith that parents care all that much to stay aware of things happening at their gov imposed "free" daycare that they love.
Are you okay with retinal scanning kids? Never ending useless testing? (complete waste of individuals who could be doing some one on one teaching instead of having robotic repetitive testing going on ALL DAY! And it IS government effort. Contrary to your way of thinking, Mike...You don't know EVERYTHING.
(http://sitemaker.umich.edu/kort.356/home...)
"In the United States in 1999-2000, there were 27,223 private schools, including secular, non-secular, and charter schools. Of these schools, approximately 78% are religious schools (Dowling). The U.S. Department of Education estimates that 5.9 million children attend private schools, in contrast to the 47.6 million students who attend public schools (Kafer). Approximately 84% of private school students are attending schools with a religious affiliation, while only 16% attend secular schools. For more information on education, visit the Education section of The Heritage Foundation's website." (http://www.heritage.org/issues/education...)
If you cannot afford a private school, you might be able to start one.
I hear in Sweden or Denmark they don't allow home schooling it's illegal.
There are certain standards for home-schooling which are government-mandated, yes, but they have far less control over the course materials than in "public" education. We knew several home schoolers and they selected course materials from various providers and worked with their kids to get things done.
What should be emphasized is that home schooled children score better on average than publicly-schooled children on the standard college entrance exams (SAT/ACT). And the margin is statistically significant (it's like 80 points on the SAT and 2-3 on the ACT).
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/...
Your state government websites probably make that easy enough to find. I put PRIVATE SCHOOL LICENSE IN TEXAS into Google and found quite a bit from the state and from private associations for private education.
It has been a few months since I crunched the data on natioanl school systems, but as I recall, you are right: private schools must teach the state curriculum, so maybe homeschooling is forbidden, also. It is probably like that in most of the world.
We inherited the English system of no system which survived sweeping reforms that nationalized education in France, Germany, etc., etc.
Have any of you heard about the Delphian School in Oregon?
http://www.delphian.org/
The one thing most education professionals, proponents, and parents sending their children to schools seem to agree on is that
Delphian is the single most advanced school in the world.
The company Heron Books is their materials supplier, and Heron also supplies home schoolers as well:
http://www.heronbooks.com/
The Delphian curriculum is so much in demand that they decided to "package up" their curriculum so that other schools around the U.S. could open similar schools around the country, and Delphian monitors that anyone using this curriculum is doing it "standardly" per the original. This has come to be known as the "Delphi Network" of schools around the U.S.
These are private schools, and at present they are all fairly expensive. However, as more and more of these open up, the prices will go down, just by the laws of supply and demand.
You can go on arguing all you want, and worry about Obama screwing it up (which he would), or just support with all your energy the people who are already getting the job done.
Here are your real life John Galt, Hank Reardon, Dagney Taggart, Francisco D'Anconia. I sincerely hope you'll support them, as schools like Delphian are our only hope for a sane future.
Forget any escape hatch, there is none. All education will be subject to Common Core standards, that includes homeschooling and private. This is truly a federal move - why else would Obama promote it?
Textbook, are you kidding? The goal is to have all students online with the parents having nothing to examine. Like in "Anthem", books will disappear. History lessons will omit some of our founding and military heroes in favor of Marxists.
I have seen a video of math in a Common Core classroom, where the teacher explains to the class that it does not matter what answer, as long as you can explain why you got the one you got.Wonder if that applies to future doctors as well - oh well, with Obamacare, we won't have any medical care anyway.
As the article said, yes, everyone will go to college, and a degree will be like the US dollar - devalued. All will be dumbed down so all may show a college degree. You can't say share the smarts, so you just make sure no one has any.
Hillary said it takes a village - right, a village of idiots to allow this to happen to their kids, right under their noses. Oh, they are not your kids anymore, they are world citizens. In case you wonder, they will also have their attitudes adjusted, to make sure they are right thinking - really. Read as much as you can on the origins, who supports and pays for Common Core, and the details.
Moved to Spring, Texas, for work reasons and immediately needed tutors for several of the kids so they could "come up to speed with the locals..."
If there were ANY good in Common Core, it would be to provide some standardized testing AND REPORTING so parents across the country could tell if their schools were doing a good or bad job of educating the kids!
(http://necessaryfacts.blogspot.com/2013/...)
The article cited in this topic is from an opinion magazine published by Thomas Aquinas College, ffrom which it took this quote: "A nation is permitted to keep its surface culture, such as language, music, and cuisine. But patriotism, religion, and individualism are anathema, as each competes with the globalist vision of world harmony. Moral codes that cannot be adapted to a multicultural vision, agreed upon in a world congress, must be jettisoned."
That did not come from any "Common Core" document. It was the assertion of Mary Jo Anderson in "Crisis" magazine from Thomas Aquinas College, which was then quoted by this Breitbart editorial.
Here is the link to the Common Core State Standards website:
http://www.corestandards.org/
If you want to argue it, at least get the facts.
The Gov, or the U.N. for Christ's sake, should NOT be calling the shots in education. EVER!
"Q: Who leads the Common Core State Standards Initiative?"
"A: The nation’s governors and education commissioners, through their representative organizations the National Governors Association (NGA) and the Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO) led the development of the Common Core State Standards and continue to lead the initiative. Teachers, parents, school administrators and experts from across the country together with state leaders provided input into the development of the standards."
"Q: Who was involved in the Common Core State Standards Initiative?
A: States across the country collaborated with teachers, researchers, and leading experts to design and develop the Common Core State Standards. Each state independently made the decision to adopt the Common Core State Standards, beginning in 2010. The federal government was NOT involved in the development of the standards. Local teachers, principals, and superintendents lead the implementation of the Common Core."
From their FAQ here:
http://www.corestandards.org/resources/f...
It not a "government effort" but rather a non-governmental organization, an NGO.
I agree with your basic position that this is beyond the proper scope of government, but so are airports and yet our safety is a concern of the International Civil Aviation Organization, which is comprised of representatives of government aeronautics and aviation agencies.
It was long a fundamental talking point of Ayn Rand's that taking on ad hoc political arguments will do nothing for freedom until the implicit philosophy of the general culture is aligned to reality and reason.
Common Core is all about Federal control of education. They want to dictate the textbooks kids learn from and the material they must study. You should look at some of the proposed material and tests - much of it revisionist history.
And some teachers and principles are ridiculing the Tea Party and parents who object. It's amazing the loyalty you can buy with a promised pension.
I really wish parents would give a shit and start pulling their kids from public schools in record numbers...make it collapse! But I have little faith that parents care all that much to stay aware of things happening at their gov imposed "free" daycare that they love.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swWm9b_LU...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEQmUnisD...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3haIGJqc...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Ui2axe4...
Are you okay with retinal scanning kids?
Never ending useless testing? (complete waste of individuals who could be doing some one on one teaching instead of having robotic repetitive testing going on ALL DAY!
And it IS government effort.
Contrary to your way of thinking, Mike...You don't know EVERYTHING.