Got it term2. It absolutely makes sense. Thanks again.

he has no interest. in fact, he and his wife are interested in having more of a role in the democratic machine. he has said so on this site. cg did not grow up in Madison. Madison called to him apparently. He's enjoying the COOPs even though the citizens can't have their own chicken COOPS (roosters). anti-reason

well yes. that would be your take, wouldn't it?

again with the feint. I don't need to have private emails which give you an opportunity to ignore present history and further conflate arguments. You are in her to convert and subvert. for gulchers just read this above. what in Hades does this have to do with anything? appeal to emotion not reason

I'm sure it is because The Third Reich is universally recognized as the most evil in history...and there is no mistaken what the connotation meant.

I guess everything rests on whether or not the comparison is "inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic." But, of course, any argument meeting that criteria should be rejected. So I really don't get why Hitler or Nazism should be singled out unless Godwin is simply noting that arguments citing them more frequently happen to meet the criteria. It doesn't seem to be a useful "law" because there seem to be endless exceptions to it.

If you are a fan of Ayn Rand, that would mean to me that they are in tune with her philosophy at least on an emotional level. To really understand the details of philosophy is not so easy, and I am not so sure that one has to be able to understand 100% in order to live a productive and happy life. I would think 0% understanding would get you citizenship into Venezuela pretty easily. Higher levels of understanding allow one to defeat the manipulation of the media and politicians easier. Even our founding fathers said one thing and often did another, as I was amazed to discover visiting Jefferson's house, slave quarters and museum.

"We certainly have the technology to not need toll booths."

That's what I ask for...some proof.
How does this technology work?

What is ironic is that you say that you will not agree to a compulsory tax, but you would agree to the road users paying for the roads. You are already paying for the roads (and none road users are not) through the compulsory fees that you pay for your car tags, and gasoline you buy.

You are doing exactly what you both denounce, and promote, at the same time. You got your wish that only road users contribute...but they are doing it without a voluntary tax.

I already am pretty much educated on the morality and effectiveness of Objectivism. I have a small company and talk to the employees all the time about how socialism is a bad thing and individual responsibility is a good thing. I probably have "converted" two of them out of 8 so far- but its a difficult task. I would pay for access to more access to articles and research that would help me influence others to give up their crazy socialist ideas- if that makes sense to you.

Since 1913, with the federal cabal of banksters who have the ability to create instant "prosperity" out of thin air ~ your U.S. debt notes, aka, dollars to those closest to the window (uh, the rogue Gov't) to finance any politically-convenient whim when they please makes compulsory taxation obsolete.

UNLESS, the goal is rob citizens of the fruits of their labor (um, social security, medicare, medicade) and keep them in perpetual poverty, ad nauseum.

REMOVE the federal reserve/cabal and hold Congress responsible for issuing coin/money, as they are Constitutionally required and somehow FORCE them to LIVE within the means of genuine taxation, then I will agree with you that compulsory taxation is necessary, but not until then.

They don't care.

Or the belief is instilled in them without analysis or deep thought. "It's just the way I was (raised, taught, preached to, etc)."

Oops -- I thought we were discussing a philosophical point. You seem to be more interested in denigration ("Toto ...") BTW -- We certainly have the technology to not need toll booths.

I think those people just get away with it because they CAN. Unfortunately theres not much that government regulation can actually do about it, given that the Ken Lay is probably smarter than most all of the regulators. I used to have a medical devices company regulated by the FDA, and I was constantly reminded when they came to inspect that they really didnt know enough about our business to effectively know what we are doing. But the poor people in the hospitals seemed to blindly trust the FDA. In reality it was my own desire to make the best stuff around that was what was protecting them- NOT the FDA regulation.

Yes indeed and therein lies the rub.

Thanks for the interesting thoughts..
To me "beauty" and "common sense" have a lot in common.

Is "karma" actually worth money!?