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All human rights stem from the right to your own life.

Posted by frankjackfiamingo 10 years, 10 months ago to The Gulch: Introductions
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I look forward to trading value for value with people who understand what value is.


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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would like to apologize for my earlier response to your comment. Upon reading it, I find my reaction to be offensive. I did not join this group to be offensive. Perhaps I need to notch back on my meds (or perhaps UP). I hope that you will accept my apology.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Or to me. I didn't intend to sound as strident as the reading of my response looks. I apologize to tragic for sounding like I have a stick up my hind parts. You are correct in pointing this out KH. I look forward to learning more from you through your posts and these interactions.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess context is sometimes nice when stating this. for example does tragic agree with your opening statement or disagree? it's not really clear to me.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. The "creator" deliberately creates a "flawed" creature, and then tortures it for 70 to 100 years, then burns it at the stake if it isn't grateful. :-) hmmmmmm. Everyone is entitled to believe what they will, but I would say that is a bit disturbing to me.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    NJ is a microcosm of Socialism in America. It is run by looters, moochers, thugs, destroyers and death worshippers - and THAT comprises most of its GOOD points. Everything goes downhill from there. The one GREAT thing is the NJ Shore. I built a home on the great Manahawkin Bay overlooking Long Beach Island. My Granddaughters live here, so I will stay and fight until the rest of my parts fall off. :-)
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  • Posted by 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I also think I may have clicked reply on the wrong post. This format is very different from what I am used to. I'll get the hang of it.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe that you, the Hallings, and, indeed, Ayn Rand have conflated the concepts of Ownership and Control. I will start a separate post to prove my assertion.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Mmmm how about you read more Rand and then we'll discuss the unlikeliness of that possibility at length.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How about..... I have a right to defend my life and the lives of those I love, if you take away my right to have a gun, then you're taking my right to defend my life away. No one has a right to take my life or my means of defending it. Owning a gun does not make me a menace. It makes me prepared.
    If a real menace were to show up right now and attempt to do us harm, it just might be your life I save. Would you deny me that right as well?
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  • Posted by $ jdg 10 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The story of Jesus is presented as a noble sacrifice, both on his own part and his father's -- but if you read the whole thing, you realize that all they are offering to "save" you from is his father's wrath. Making it a protection racket.

    If I did believe in God I would be seeking his overthrow.
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