Seriously? Did she miss the class on The Law of Contradiction?
Posted by MinorLiberator 10 years, 6 months ago to Humor
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While we're very happy to have you in the Gulch and appreciate your wanting to fully engage, some things in the Gulch (e.g. voting, links in comments) are a privilege, not a right. To get you up to speed as quickly as possible, we've provided two options for earning these privileges.
You may disagree with that, but in the process yet another new truth will emerge. Neither the mystics of mind nor the mystics of muscle are interested in objective reality, except perhaps as a way for them (not you) to have automobiles.
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Maybe in some 'third or fourth mind'... but unlikely in their own. Need examples of that???
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i think it's only in a world like the Gulch, and other rare similar groups, where a person thinks: "Hey, this is important stuff, I'd better make sure, i.e., convince myself, that it's true, before i go spreading it around." I think that's called respect, or better, reverence, for the Truth.
>>>> I agree with that proposition, but as I try to remind everyone, the same guys who would Change those Rules are the same guys who Established The Current Rules you're proposing changing!
Want to put any money down on the odds of THAT happening? I wouldn't. Some other kind of influence will have to come first.
First you need the actual numbers and they might be a closely guarded State Secret.
Then you need to know and that's local knowledge where to target and how to target.
I like hit and run and hit from another direction another way. Makes them chew up campaign funds fast. Soros and the money laundering congress don't know what to defend nor where nor when.
Third you need a focus point in effect if not a real party a straw party with an acceptable campaign for the sole purpose of defeating the other two candidates of the single party system in as many areas, precincts etc. as possible.
Then you become will of the wisp so the press doesn't know from one day to the next who or whom to attack.
It's not even close to time to do more while presenting the ideas
Any chance of infiltrating one or the other in the primary where enough people can cause a weak candidate to win and strong candidate to lose. That's called raiding in polysci terminolgy.
The whole thing is a death of a thousand cuts but the mosquitoes get blamed. Funny thing there are always more mosquitoes.
That one group of people which now seems to equal or more than equal either of the two halves of the government party is a mighty enticing group to go after.
Even the threat of doing so. What I'm writing right now will cause a realignment of campaign funds.
Drop by drop the same way the bleed us.
Articles in Reason and Fortune seem to keep mentioning this. For that, I have hope. Maybe in my lifetime, too... if anyone comes along who doesn't screw up the marketing of such a 'party.'
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Check/search the publications for the articles. Reason Mag articles were around October-December of last year.
In 'my usage,' socially 'liberal' folks don't care what you do with YOUR body so long as it doesn't directly affect theirs. (abortion, contraception, gay marriage, etc.); fiscally 'conservative' folks do NOT believe that the Government is the Be-All/End-All Best Provider of Solutions to Any and All problems we face, and that if a project or Agency fails to deliver on its raison d'etre, throwing more money at them to 'make it work' is as dumb as a bag of rocks (or most fiscal liberals...)
Hope that helps. I've got my own definitions of Critical Thinking, too... :)
Of course, proportional representation would remove this specific problem, but it's also not going to happen. Enacting it is a "who bells the cat" problem.
In any case it sounds like bi-partisanship or cross-partisanship two other terms for a single party system of government so I have to find out what it might really be.
The point of the suggestion which was offered as a way to cure soft money from where ever is to get rid of any donating or volunteering entity that has no business in any specific voting district - be it state, county, city, federal or other district, township or any other special district such as those dealing with water use. The key point is only people in that district as set down in the precinct voting system or booklet who are able to vote in that precinct have any business trying to sway the vote in that precinct one way or the other. The answer to your problem of not enough conservatives or any other stripe is not solved by working for them elsewhere but enabling them a fighting chance of establishing themselves in your precinct. That they aren't going to be able to accomplish with the likes of non-voting entities getting in the way. Such as all corporations or companies, political machines from other states, other countries, union and other PACs none of which can vote.
The playing field is leveled to contain you and your neighbors. You aren't fighting George Soros or General Motors. As one moves through the voting handbook and the ballot the stage enlarges automatically until the final step that of President and Vice-President. Presently that is confined to two candidates for each from the Government Party. The guy or gal you really wanted is out in the cold. Same with measures and speaking of which if you don't have them add Recall, Initiative, Whatever amount of funding is allowed for each local registered voter for each candidate or measure. Those sorts of follow on or lead the way clean up the ballot tools. The list is incomplete but it's a start. If you or it can't vote it can't participate. As far as those other districts are concerned they aren't your business unless you move. Works in two directions. And don't forget students., If they register to vote locally make sure they are on the tax and jury selection rolls as well.
Notice this does not encourage any particular party nor even only two party's but a way of getting away from a monolithic single party system and go to a new idea - more than one party or even as our Government Party has become a Political Coalition'
Best of all you still have the right of free assembly and free speech. It's dollars, volunteer time and sign painters, tv and radio advertising time that are the targets.
Now think about how to control that last group. I'm worn out from gun control which usually only recites a few old saws and ends up hammering away at not much. Anchor threads in the sailing community are much like that.
You've fallen into the lefty trap of assuming that a law you propose would be interpreted and enforced by your allies. Government doesn't work that way.
And lumping the two major parties together as "the Government Party" is a conspiracy theory I don't buy.
Georgie can speak freely anywhere he wants and especially in his own precinct. So can we all, At least we used to have that right. All it took was showing up and speaking or writing a letter ot the editor or publishing your own door to door flyer and delivering it to 1100 residences.
Now justify UAW, GMC, any foreign country, SPCA, or any other entity that cannot vote. I'll exclude SPCA if it's about a measure having to do with animal shelters in my local area. I use UAW and GMC a representative of the whole PAC system as they were quite recently government funded in the great payback bailout.
In some cases such as under the Bacon Act not only are union and corporate PAC's taxpayer funded but a portion is laundered back into the campaign funds of those providing them with taxpayer funds to launder. Try getting a job call if you haven't donated which is easy to do as the Davis Bacon prevailing wage scales are easily double the actual prevailing wage scale . Soros your way out of that one.
Can you parse any''one'' into any group such as unions, corporations, and foreign countries? Where did the Constitution provide that right? For that matter did it refer to the press specifically? Georgie is OK he's a voter - probably maybe - but not in my precinct. I'm assuming that. I don't know that's true. Maybe he's like that Australian dude and his media chain? Doesn't matter. Both are some one. I'll let it slide. But the entity's are not and never were voters. Sadly it's a moot point. None of those rights exist in a country that opted to ignore the document that provided them.
Which Precinct? Mine is located in Bight, ME. I'm a group of one and I both approved and paid for this ad without using money. Free speech is exactly that - Free.
"Georgie about that offer? Sorry 'my votes not for sale!"
"Sorry to hear that but never mind. We didn't include it in the new version of the Constitution."
Click.
So what is this proportional representation? By definition.
And zero spending would be way too level of a "level playing field" for a Democrat. They prefer to be more level than the opposition.
As for the rest we're advised to leave things as they are or George Soros will simply buy the next candidate one way or another. Not good enough for me but at least we have a balanced viewpoint fro the other side. To sum it up. Give up. Resistance is futile. At any level.
Back to reality.one other proposal along with one term only has been to change the Presidency to one term of six years. Ups and downs to that one but two years for the Representatives is spent mostly campaigning or raising funds not working. So another proposed change is Reps to three years and one term. Lots of combinations to discuss. I like the two year one because then with one term it would run Soros broke that much faster.
The comment is always made it takes two years or more just to learn how to work the system. Huh? Is it that crooked? Well. Think of something said by Samuel Clements
'US Congress is Americas's only true homegrown criminal class.'
or his Treatise 'Cannibals In the Cars' about the Congress deciding which one of each other to eat next.
or his final stanza to Battle Hymn Of The Republic -
In a sordid slime harmonious, Greed was born in yonder ditch,
With a longing in his bosom - and for others' goods an itch -
As Christ died to make men holy, let men die to make us rich -
Our God is marching on."
Samuel Clemens AKA Mark Twain had Congress nailed and those who supported status quo. I wonder how he would characterize the charade presently in office.
I don't believe in a price on freedom of speech nor freedom of assembly either. Nor that it should be bought and sold like a cheap carbon tax. Except of course the price already paid. Appears to me the tree needs watering.
Completely agree that one term of no more than 4 years for all national offices, only one government elected national position per lifetime, and neither state nor federal bureaucrats and elected officials are allowed to run for elected national office. No career politicians should be tolerated at the national level. State's may follow that model or not. It's the people's choice.
You nailed it. Hazy is the word and now it's a race between Pelosyllini and whats her name.
by saying "I had to deny Reason in order to make room for emotions"
Today we know it as the Government Party or Coalition, Major Commerce and Financial owner/leaders, and Union Leaders. The first two compromise the ruling class with interchangeable parts - the third is their kickstand.
On the other hand, lots of new countries create new languages, as a way to ensure their continued independence. So perhaps a large enough Gulch *should* consider adopting one of these "perfect" languages. If it really is superior it would make us more efficient, too. I'm not sure if it'll work very well, but wouldn't mind being part of the experiment.
But if you asked this woman the same question, I'm sure she could in good faith state that no, it's not a contradiction. Welcome to the world of polylogism...
http://www.poppolling.com/index.php?poll...
Sorry Ms. Hagan, your constituents realized just how phony and self serving you really are.
They think they are the only ones smart enough to get away with buying elections. Who pays the big bucks to have someone so idiotic indoctrinate their college kid? Liberalism is a disease of the mind, wherein they are unable to see reality, only their utopian view of what they think should be, They just seem unable to reason.
Every time he would call and come in with some complaint, I would hear him start off griping about how many thousands of dollars he spent to be a loser.
It got to the point I wanted to call him a loser to his face but I knew he'd go whining to my boss.
Glad that 7 years of PR handling whiners with kid gloves is way in my past.
But now I'll check it out. Might be more gems in there...