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Atlas Shrugged and Jesus Wept

Posted by khalling 10 years, 8 months ago to Philosophy
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ok, fish fry


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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's why we rely so heavily on the reality provided by input through our senses and rationally evaluated with logical reasoning. Reality is not relative nor subjective. A=A
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But the one who does so is valued, so putting others before oneself is valued in Christianity. That is the antithesis of Objectivism.
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  • Posted by conscious1978 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    ...There's the rub.

    Rhetorical questions: Why was there a need for sacrifices to God in the first place? Sounds like a fix for a problem that never existed. Was he running for office?


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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ranter, there is much for us to agree on. You are beginning to be a one-note. That will lose you points. reason vs faith. it's reality. If you choose faith, you reject reason, even if you use reason in other areas of your life. I just ask that we be honest about this. Believing in God is not similar to picking a type of music to enjoy.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I happily try to ignore the concept of god but you are bringing it up on my post! the purpose of the post was primarily to point out all of the distortions and wrong information regarding Rand. Yes, it was also noted what weekend it was. I remind you that this is an Ayn Rand site and that you will meet with lots of disagreement in discussing the existence of god. If that seems odd to you, please check a premise
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  • Posted by Ranter 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No philosophy can ever be complete. If so, then rationality must die and thought becomes mere acceptance of dogma. No two minds think exactly alike, and so there is always room for any philosophy to evolve with new minds coming to bear on it.
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    Posted by Ranter 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is illogical to say that an Objectivist cannot like classical music. It is just as illogical to say that an Objectivist cannot believe in God.
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  • Posted by Ranter 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It went zombie on you because it began with assertions about the non-existence of God. There is nothing in the physical universe to prove the existence or non-existence of God. One can reason to deductions about God, but those are unproven deductions. That is why I said that atheism and theism have the same degree of logic or illogic backing them. An Objectivist should not assert the non-existence of God. If the Objectivist does not accept the idea that God exists, the Objectivist should simply ignore the idea of God.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ranter, altruism by definition involves sacrifice, not just charity. And the sacrifice must be of something of value to the individual. Altruism is evil.
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you, khalling. You have helped me come to terms with where I am right now as regards faith and reason. That's a big thing, and I appreciate you taking the time to communicate. I owe you one!
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    Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "reveal truth has nothing to do with Objectivism"
    The issue here is whether revealed truth that has nothing to say about the universe is antithetical to Objectivism. My thought is if the "truths" have nothing to say about the real world, they're neither consistent with nor contrary to Objectivism. They're unrelated, like our personal likes and dislikes... as long as they don't venture into scientifically falsifiable claims.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well you missed some points, but reveal truth has nothing to do with Objectivism - keep reading.
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  • Posted by Zenphamy 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well the principles are true, A=A, Existence is, man's only tool to survive is his rational mind. AR's fictional prediction of the probability of what this country would become, if no change was made, was pretty spot on. Her philosophy is complete. There may well be more description to be done, but I don't get evolution.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How do you use the assumption that somebody wrote it in reverse engineering the code?

    I imagine the answer is you think, "What could he have been thinking here when he called this function." If your assumption that a thinking mind wrote the code is correct, this line of thinking could be productive.

    But if you're examining something unlike Java code that may not have been created by a mind, the assumption can lead you in the wrong direction.

    Thanks for the chance to ask religious/theological questions I would avoid working on a project I'm involved with.
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