I don't care about paper or plastic; LED, real bulbs, or the gross counterfeit bulbs. The problem is the government has no business in telling consumers what to buy. Then the market of ideas will rule.

The whole ban is a diversion to keep everyone from looking directly at the truth. It is all an illusion. "They" learned from Hitler and he learned from those before him. Both the Republican party and the Democratic party are the same--a diversion from the truth. Fight among us as they go along with "their" plan.

out of the 3 corn bulbs which we have burned,
long-term, one has failed (forensics indeterminate)
and the other 2 are still burning, after months and
months of daily use -- about 14 hours per day.
these cheapies are not the highest quality bulbs
available, I'm sure. -- j

Quoting John Belushi (as Captain James Kirk), "But for how long, Mr.Spock? For how long?"

yes, and when I plugged one into 120 it lit right up! -- j

Well, what I try to do is to get light bulbs to use
that are not made in a totalitarian state. And that
has become increasingly difficult. I did find some
made in Hungary, but was dubious about that, Hun
gary having been previously a member of the
Soviet block. But I went to a neighbor's house
and he let me use the computer to look up the
latest information on it. It seemed to be accept-
able (who knows whether I'll find out that that
was wrong?), so I went to the store and bought
a slew of those packages. So that will last me
for a while.

Good point about disposal, blarman. Maybe the longer life might compensate, but also maybe it is more practical to recycle printed circuit than a CFL (I don't know, just guessing)

Equality "I" Prometheus

Same here on lifespan thing. Despite the claims right on the box, I've never seen a CFL used in my house last longer than six months, yet they cost 12x as much as even high-quality incandescent bulbs. No thanks.

I have seen data that indicates LED lighting "bulbs' should have a life 5-6 times that of CFLs. That could make them more eco friendly. In addition, my personal experience with CFL's has been that the life claims are exaggerated. In my house they last no longer than incandescents. I have had to replace every one under warranty.

Modified paper bag was the best tool available for applying lube to the guides that my power windows follow.

One should also note that there is a loophole to this rule. All you have to do is get a different grade: http://www.aamsco.com/light-bulbs/americ...

(Note that I have no financial ties, this just happened to be from a quick Google search.)

Well said. +1

You might be surprised, but because LED's require voltage regulation via printed circuits, disposal of LED-based bulbs is actually worse than CFL's on a one-to-one basis. I like them from a power-consumption standpoint, but they aren't going to win any eco-friendly awards despite the liberals' claptrap.

Want to know what else? Because CFL's are manufactured and sealed using mercury, they can't be produced in the United States. So one of the other great side-effects is that now we're forced to IMPORT all our light bulbs from China, Singapore, etc.

Actually, I do prefer paper for cold items - better insulative properties and then my kids can use the bags to cover their school textbooks.

The specs say that marsing corn bulb is a 220-240v device.

I'm getting "corn" bulbs fairly inexpensively, but the
floodlights which are going under the eaves, as the
old ones fail, are kinda expensive. -- j

p.s. here's an inexpensive corn bulb
which you might like::: http://www.miniinthebox.com/marsing-e27-...

p.p.s. and a round bulb::: http://www.tmart.com/search.html?attr_m_...

they are committed to forcing their envisioned Utopia
into existence, against the laws of the universe.
their delusion, like groupthink, has increased
recently, since the media have become so involved
in the propaganda portion of the "deal." -- j

p.s. Rand was soooooooooo right.

they might be money- and power-grubbing idiots.
you know, Emma, like the ones against whom
we cannot idiot-proof anything. -- j

p.s. I get mine from an international supplier called
"tmart" -- http://www.tmart.com/search.html?q=LED+b...

-- j

Not incandescent pricing either.

the LEDs with color temps in the 3000s are pretty
decent. . not incandescent quality, but good. -- j

we recycle both;;; the paper ones either start fires
in the woodstove or hold "mixed paper" for recycle,
and the plastic ones hold groceries. . again. -- j