There Will Never Be Enough Good Jobs Again
Posted by XenokRoy 10 years, 3 months ago to Government
Interesting Article, I am interested in others thoughts about it.
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There are plenty of resources to provide a good standard of living to all approximately 9.5 billion people at the peak.
Now, as we automate and robotics becomes more capable we may be able to provide that standard of living to the entire planet without needing the labor of all of the people so there may not be productive jobs for all of them to do. This will cause us to reexamine our philosophies, possibly toward a baseline national income.
Just for the sheer hell of it and being retired from the military only I took a job a McDonalds. The objective was to see how fast I could move up the food chain of jobs in general.
Then moved to Arbys then to an import company adding trim etc. to KIA's so they could see made in USA'
then to a company installing everything that goes inside a huge warehouse and ended up running the work gang.
Ditto closing out the old smaller warehouse
Added night and weekends at RGIS inventory service
Finshed up the hundred ton license and an equipment operators license
signed on with a company drilling fiber optics as a flagger and moved to a fork lift and then to drill rig crew.
That finished but I flagged for a union job and went to Davis-Bacon wages and did census as the follow up investigator.
All in a year and a half. Then jumped to Military sealift command as a deck hand. and with the military retirement added in made a hair over a hundred thousand after taxes and pumped up the eventual social security.
You don't find jobs at the unemployment office you find jobs by getting your foot in the door and paying attention to opportunities, I didn't use any of my military retirement to live on that went for boat parts.
Wasn't all a bed of roses but there are jobs if not good then temporarily acceptable. They may be in another state. But being from Oregon or Appalachia West I was used to that. Oregon's number one export is high school seniors.
Here's another job tip. My sister spent 14 months after her former employer closed shop in Portland, Oregon. She moved to Florida and scored within the month at Mayo Clinic. I had given her one piece of advise., NEVER present your self as threat to anyone's job. She had been office manager supervising up to 40 employees in the past and had added the letters of recommendation. For Mayo she left that out.
Got the job, Is now number two in the particular office and handles all the procedural manuals ands training. She remarked the one's that would have blocked her hiring application were gone.
You can't demonstrate skill if you aren't on the job.
Realize there is always a danger. That of others taking credit for your good work but the counterbalance is they can't afford to fire you or they shoot them selves in the foot.
Another way is dump the unions and form an Employees and Citizens Association which is a different thing entirely. I'll have to write a precis and post it as a new thread.
It's a matter of going to a temp agency and testing for your strengths.
You also might have to move to a place where you can play to your strengths.
If you are an older adult the school systems offer nearly free classes to upgrade your skills.
Online education is also an option.
The really great thing about being my age is that we came out of high school with what would now be considered an advanced degree. You are smart...and it will pay off.
The problem here lies in the fact that we have people in government deciding that this-or-that is bad for "the environment" and they tax and fine producers for minor infringements on their thoughts about how things should function.
(There isn't any science behind their excuses to interfere...there IS hyperbole, however and lots of it!)
If government would pursue a proper role as protector and stop regulating and punishing, the producers would not only provide ample resources but would have monetary incentive to do so.
The way that government will "thin" the populace is the same way NAZI Germany did...create a "problem population" through vilification then get rid of the "problem".
Freedom is the answer to all of these "problems".
programmed thinking awareness and humans who have already shown a willingness take their place.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
I would vote for 30% reduction in government expenditures for sure. I would get rid of prohibitions on drugs, the DEA, DOT, Department of Education, and many other agencies tomorrow if I had the powers, I would probably be killed within a few days too by either the DEA or the Cartel
There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. Ethanol? Ethanol Subsidies? Most of it goes to agricorps not to farmers or farm workers. And whiy should we subsidize something that takes one gallon of gas to produce one gallon of moonshine and then destroys your engine? Other than that point I'm giving you a thumbs up for the rest of it. So just think about that one little point which is after all nothing more than another form of welfare.
Keep up the good work.
As for suggestions to start with a 30% cut in the size and funding of the federal government based on last years budget not the increases for next years budget would be a good start point. We took our thirty percent cut now it's their turn.
Jobs? There are all kinds of jobs.There is a lack of people who wish to work. So the next item is a cut in welfare to drive the moochers out of the freebie line. I suggest the Minimum wage be 150% after taxes of the highest total of all welfare since they don't pay taxes and get a refund anyway. It's doesn't require any thought at all what's need is action. Not acquiescing to left wing fascist socialism and while we're at it 30% cut in government jobs, 30% cut in government budgets and 30% cut in government pay - across the board What's good for the citizens is good for their employees and that is all they are.
Why do I say plenty of jobs? The amount of criminal aliens working at artificially depressed wages tells me that is a true statement. People don't want to work give them three job offers, then cut welfare benefits and put them to work on the prison farms with those wages going to feed their children.
enough of the bullshit. time to cut government which in and of itself will create jobs. As for the those cut...let them eat cake!
You will get no dispute from me on that. These are however a small minority of misfits who need to be dealt with individually and appropriately by those affected. That a few sociopaths will always exist is no reason for organizing an entire society to account for this lowest of minority denominators.
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A self destructive policy is at work. A basic law of economics is at play. Whatever you subsidize, you get more of. Whatever you tax and regulate you get less of. The more people that are paid not to work the more of them you get. The more you tax and regulate the productive the fewer of them you get. The result is an economy without excess capital or incentive to create new jobs and increase the labor market. Innovation, invention and job creation suffer as a result. When more people work there are more consumers with expendable income to spread around and feed more jobs. It has been demonstrated repeatedly that when you cut welfare and other handouts people do find work and then a multiplier effect grows the economy and job market.
There are many factors at work here and government is behind the worst of them. We no longer stress teaching a man to fish. We just give him a fish. Trade, regulation and tax policies that encourage large corporations to outsource work are also at play. Another critical economic law: Capital will always seek the highest return.
The situation is dire, but it is not hopeless. If the wrong government policies can be destructive, the right ones can be constructive. It is the mindset of those that elect and those they elect which must learn the error of their ways. If this reality finally sinks in, things will change. Many in government are dependent upon their symbiotic relationship with voters that return the favor for the handout. To those of us that produce, both are parasitic. Technology is not the problem. Lack of incentive is the problem.
Respectfully,
O.A.
IF not now in time machines will make machines. I would wager that the robots used in the Phoenix McDonalds were likely built in a plant mostly made of robotic labor.
What the market will create is a good number of jobs maintaining the robots. Until Nanite (spelling?) technology evolves to where the highly portable microscopic robots can repair the larger productive robots in the field. Then those will be gone, but someone will have to design and program the nanites to do the work they will do, until artificial intellegence gets to where it does the programming....
Each iteration will provide some additional jobs that require a high level of education while eliminating 10 to 100s of jobs that do not. LIkely leaving two job markets, those of engineers, designers and researchers and those of the sales and services around automation the design teams make. With the exception of sales all other positions will require a higher level of education as time moves forward.
You can look over the history of the automotive industry to see this cycle there, other industries will follow the same cycle.
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