i remember when we had enough money in the family to buy enough acreage to have horses. but that was in the mid fifties. Both breadwinners were school teachers. Wanna guess how much they made back then?

exactly, however the question is which one or maybe just a straw dog party as a rallying point. I'd not forget the percentage of eligibles, percentage of registrants, percentage of those who vote and for whom. Seems to be a major weak points especially if the two opponents can be drawn into a fight for candidates to prove how independent they are. Add to the mix enough cohesion for the remaining third so that neither one nor the other nor both together get a majority. At this point my aim is to destroy Democrats and Republicans just to prove it can be done and even if in only in some precincts and states. For discussion purposes call it a straw dog party or better yet a straw dog coalition.around which many may gather. So the real percentages from a reliable source would be useful instead of fifty percent register, half of them vote and of the 25 percent it's a one third, one third and one third being the independents and all the small partys and write ins. Assuming 8 1/3rd nine percent would beat out the other two at seven percent each Best case but to be sure 13 percent would wax both their skis at 13 leaving them only 12 to divide IF they agreed to support one or the other. Worst Case.

So what issues would that many of the independents, small parties, disenfranchised, AND some who didn't register but now would and wouldn't have voted but now will? What issues would enough support balanced against the my way or the highway i'll not give an inch losers.

Take it away. In political science the term is raiding.

Second thought a governorship was won in Idaho when the legally pre registered people were on temporary loan to the other party. In the primary they defeated the strong popular candidate leaving a weak unpopular choice for the general election. Then they all voted for the other guy.

Which is what the left has been doing through selecting candidates from the top and then castrating them before the general election leaving fools, bumpkins, clowns, RINOs and worse to take the fall.

Can that eight and one third percent be enlarged to use a little political judo??

In just enough precincts to ''fundamentally'' change the outcome and drive home the ''notion'' theres a new choice in town but no one knows who he, she or it are? Just enough precincts and just enough political fires started and local debates or presentations where the moderater demands the question be answered and not ducked. If ducked the audience show start quacking.

I couldn't resist a little intentional use of words and Mighty Ducks analogy.

As to the original post. Makes you wonder who wrote the script and to what purpose. On the other hand since neither one of the of the two Government Party candidates will get my support I don't bother watching the play acting. It's immaterial.

I probably missed something there. Let me be even more clear. You have more than one choice. You can vote for the greater or the lesser evil which only makes you a supporter of evil. Or you can can vote for another choice or other choices ONE of which is called undervoting which means you register and don't vote. Since the first choice is morally reprehensible and has failed to produce any change or slow down or reverse anything for at least fifty years that leaves one of the other choices.

It's a choice of personal moral values and self respect versus settling the same tired old vote flushing. We have far too many people who are afraid to make a click sound much less anything louder and settle for being crickets. Guaranteed the first to complain after their tweedle dee or tweedle dum vote proves to be of less value than not voting at all - never mind voting for a third or fourth or fifth choice. You ALWAYS have a choice and always have had a choice.

Voting is low? That is a good thing. It means less people in the independent and other categories need be swayed to vote FOR something rather than SOS. It makes attacking the top more feasible than ever. Who cares if they denigrate? Does it matter? Do they matter? Or does explaining one day to your kids why you supported evil and flushed a whole country down the toilet along with your vote?

Not you in particular but anyone you are speaking to on the subject. Bush and Gore were that close. Why? The third sector of actual votes fell for the give them another chance line of BS and the flush vote BS. If Bush and Gore were that close it means they had to had to entice the weak to vote for them. Choice is be weak or be strong.

The most fertile ground for me was in the active duty military. Still is and the retirees and the people that moved outside the country....

What's your circle of influence? 25 / 3 = 8.3333 etc. All it takes is if the two halves of the Government establishment party are running fairly even like Bush and Gore is 9 percent. If they join forces it takes 13%

I'll take those odds any day against the 100% certainty of wishing we had None of the Above.

Which leaves the issue down to Who? If we can't garner those percentages and win then it means get what you can as a spoiling action until any remark such as landslide makes them look ridiculous and stupid.

Get enough crickets together they all of a sudden are easily heard and not herded.

Good luck do what you can. It's an uphill battle but it only takes one percent IF the 8.33333 percent join forces and stick together. (Yes I know those are exact numbers but they illustrate the point. It only takes the other side one percent to stick it to us again and again and again.

Your choice.

Start at the bottom and take away their support. You don't attack the only tanks in town in the open. You lead them into a political minefield. What if they gave an election and nobody came? The system now would take over - openly - as a fascist dictatorship - and the next phase could begin. Gonna happen one way or another.

Invented by Socialist leader Benito Mussolini as he invented the Fascist Socialist system. Church, State, King replaced by State, Big Business and Union Leaders Statists, Corporatists and notice Union Leaders as union members were not included.

1.5 is a good way to put it. Mine is not so kind. I refer to the Republicans as the yippy yappy lapdogs of the left. Whose only job is to pee on command and take the heat for the Demo's.

Have to look elsewhere for somebody to vote for but no way I vote for that failed mess. I'll not dishonor myself by supporting evil.