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Posted by Joy1inchrist 10 years, 1 month ago to Ask the Gulch
Were you a Christian before being introduced to the philosophy of Ayn Rand? 2. Are you a Christian now?
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Yes - After reading Atlas Shrugged and most of Ayn Rand's other writing as well as the Bible and many other writings, I came to appreciate the value of Jesus Christ and how His example serves as a model of how Love and Compassion can make life work better. Most persons regard themselves as Christian without understanding what that means thereby poisoning the well for most thinking people!.
I have however "converted" a few Christians to Objectivism over the years.... ;-)
And thinking of scientific proof, I met a Christian who told me he heard the funniest joke: "Can God make a rock so big he can't lift it?" When he told me that I was stunned because right in his joke he expressed the impossibility of the whole concept of God.
You cannot prove that at all. Only reference things you know and/or have seen. "the evident demonstration of reality though not beheld."
I now recognize that some people find comfort in their religious beliefs, so I just treat them with respect while not concurring. I support anyone's freedom to believe whatever they want. Just as a side note, it is also refreshing but unfortunately quite rare, to find a religious person who shows the same respect for a non-believers beliefs.
See, I also believe there is nothing as a simple answer either. Ayn Rand was real, real person, a real soul. I'm not sure her outlook on the facts of life made her a very happy person. At least she did and took what she wanted in life. We can't ask for much more than that.
Alma 32:21 in the book of Mormon.
Regardless of if you are another christian denomination, or even atheist Alma 32 of the book of Mormon defines faith more clearly than anything else I have ever read. It even gives a basic guide for development faith into knowledge and is very similar to scientific process.
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again, so I answered the question.
2. No.
Before I found the philosophy of Ayn Rand, I
was a sort of deist, or pantheist, which I no longer am.
2. Yes
2. No
However, I was raised as a baptist/methodist, and as a boy I was a christian. I was married in a catholic ceremony, and promised to educate my kids as catholics, although agnostic by then. My first wife (yes the catholic) divorced me. I transitioned from agnostic to atheist, which was really just being decisive. My kids have watched, learned and figured out the fairy tale as well. They are both athiests, much to the chagrin of their grandmother.
Ayn did not change my mind on religion, but I am tremendously pleased she arrived at the same conclusion I did.
A deist, yes. But there is a clear difference.
2) I still believe in Christ and the saints, but my notion of my religion and of of God is very different.
Thank you for your comment. Here is where the difference is, and this is where many differ. I personally do believe that the Bible is the Word of God. Having said that, I also believe the accounts as written are accurate, for example the parting of the Red Sea, the Plagues of Egypt, the fall of the Walls of Jericho, and all of the other accounts in the Bible, but that were also recorded by secular historians like Flavious Josephus.
Neither you or I were around 3,000 years ago, however the accounts of Hailey's Comet have been recorded by people we never met who some might argu never really existed and their writings were mis translated through time, however, WE have seen Haley's comet and KNOW is will come around every 76 years, and has been recorded as such for many centuries.
As I have posted, I observed the PERFECT mathematical precision, and timing of all things universal, from the rotation of each planet around our Solar System, to the specific angle of tilt the earth has that allows for life to actually exist. 10' either way in rotation and we would fly off into space or crash into the sun.
I could write a 10,000 page dissertation on all the things that are perfectly positioned just for life to exist on Earth that, based on all I have studied, cannot attribute to a "Big Bang" but to God, or Intelligent Design, or Creation by Giant Green Men, but certainly not by accident in any way shape or form.
When I talk about proof, it is based on observation of all things around me, just like the Sun rising and the Moon orbiting the Earth, and the tides coming and going based on the NON-PROVABLE field of gravity we KNOW exists and see the evidence of.
Just like NOBODY can prove the sun will rise in the morning as I stated, nobody can Prove God Exists. We can only point to the observable measurable things and conclude based on that, that there must be a creator.
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