http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/...

Thats 2 years old. I can post much more things that he's done. Eg. His circumventing Congress by going to the UN to sanction the Iran 'deal'. Hi suse of Executive orders to circumvent Congressional authority in making law.

If you're for people being accountable for their conduct and words then you are shielding O solely because you favor him for some reason and people are reporting his anti-American and unconstitutional conduct. I'm actually kind of surprised.

"Post move around the original point; that doesn't make other elements brought up not worth discussing clearly."
That makes sense. I will answer your questions.

"There is some thing every day with which to discredit Obama. Whose fault is it that those things exist?"
If you mean the ones I call absurd, I'm saying it's thanks to President Obama being so good that they resort to these absurd accusations.

If you mean real criticisms like the fact that he proposed budgets that increase the deficit, that falls squarely on him. Supporters of the borrowing is to boost aggregate demand and cause expansion. We're seeing only tepid growth. Critics of the borrowing say long-term rates will eventually rise and stifle long-term growth. That hasn't happened yet either, but I believe it will happen and will cause a mini-crisis. In any case, much of the blame/credit for the results of the borrowing falls on President Obama.

"Do you believe that Obama is being persecuted?"
No, not at all. I don't even see how "persecuted" can ever apply to someone who's the POTUS.

"Are you okay with Obama wanting to deny 2nd amendment right to a certain group of people; is that acceptable to you?"
No way. Gov't has an awful tendency to take your money and give it back to you (e.g. highway funding) if you do what they want.

not the original question, the ones immediately above your last post, which I repeated to you.

Post move around the original point; that doesn't make other elements brought up not worth discussing clearly.

"stick to the question asked, please."
The original question was about President Obama being a foreign operative on a mission to destroy America. I was snarky and laughed at that, but then pointed out if there turns out to be some crazy conspiracy. The rest of the stuff is unrelated. I do think it's a good thing (reward-like) for President Obama's critics to accuse him of being a foreign agent.

stick to the question asked, please.
There were three: There is some thing every day with which to discredit Obama. Whose fault is it that those things exist?
Do you believe that Obama is being persecuted?
Are you okay with Obama wanting to deny 2nd amendment right to a certain group of people; is that acceptable to you?

The opposite of persecuted is praised, rewarded, protected, commended - and so on. Your point is that he is being rewarded? Saying he is not X, he is X. is not an answer to the question.

It's the opposite of persecuted. They can't come up with anything reasonable, so they resort to patently absurd claims.

Of course if I'm wrong (I'm certain I'm not), then I will be a fool for having dismissing the claims out of hand.

Whose fault is it that something comes up every day to discredit O and reveal is actual purpose? He's been stuffing the pipe with some much marxist crap and things that run counter to American interests and ideology that it will take decades to sort it all out, pay it all off, and repair the damage he's done.

You make it sound like O has been persecuted? Is that what you really believe? If so, are you calling me a racist because I point out that this man is and has been doing, and he happens to be black? Would I criticize and point out these things any less if he were white? If he were a R?

Latest news: O wants to strip away second amendment rights to some social security recipients with no justifiable cause. You okay with this?
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/se...

Sorry for the snark, but honestly... it's like people are scarping the bottom of the barrel and ignoring reality to come up with criticisms.

Hey CG, your quote is blatantly selective.

Indeed and exactly. This would be an egregious continuation of what happened with Bill and Monica sittin' in a tree (whoops no, the oval office) in the late 90's while avoiding the issue of all the technology the traitor transferred to the communist Chinese.

Today's blatant audacity is beyond that of 15-20 years ago.

There is much in what you say. Idiocy will die from its own faults. It is just the damage along the way.

However, idiocy, when aided and abetted for other purposes by medias and agendas will extend the life cycles of these inherent idiocies for maximum purpose. And that purpose is not that of the misled idiots.

Hence, the sudden out of nowhere (JV) rise of another western defined boogeyman called ISIS (with Obubblehead insisting on ISIL which has never been asked about or explained). The same occurred 15 years ago with this thing called Al Qaeda.

I read a book on the rise of the Taliban that was published before 9/11. In it they said that all that Al Qaeda meant was "The Database", meaning a list of insurgents throughout the Muslim world that had been recruited to the jihad cause. It had no meaning as a name for such a cause. That was a creation of the western world to give a name to something little understood, with the primary purpose of defining a dubious enemy that has to be fought with global entangling alliances and the burgeoning empowerment it takes to fight a faceless, stateless bogeyman.

The bogeyman would have died a natural death born of its own idiocy except it served a larger purpose.

"he is anything other than a foreign plant who is executing the goals of his masters - be they islamic, Russian (likely), or Chinese."
Alrighty then.

This practice goes STRAIGHT into their subconscious and becomes part of them...it's worse than Project Monarch ever dreamed of. That's how they perpetuate pagan barbarianism. [edit spelling]

Yes, lets avoid the audacity of what this man has done to the foundational aspects of our nation by discrediting it as absurd and focus on the superficial sex scandal. After all this time there is little to suggest that he is anything other than a foreign plant who is executing the goals of his masters - be they islamic, Russian (likely), or Chinese.

Critics of Obama really need a sex scandal or something. Anything would be better than these absurd claims.

The parents of these children are uneducated illiterate just like the 500 or so generations that came before them, so why should anyone believe that a sudden change will take place to bring the muslim world into the 21st century as we have known it in the west. The Israeli's view each new born male as a future warrior. now you can include girls.

and some of you think there are "good" muslims.
check your premises.

How many generations will they commit to these beliefs? Once these ideas are planted in the minds of the young there is only one thing that can change them.

What have we taught our children? I just can't imagine how a parent could go along with this, but I suppose generation after generation makes anyone believe.

When Tamerlane defeated the army of a walled city, in order to insure that they would open the gates, he'd take the severed heads of the defeated soldiers and fling them over the walls. Capitulation was almost always forthcoming. ISIS is the reincarnation of the barbarians of the time of Attila and Tamerlane. Opening our "gates" to them is sheer foolishness, whether they are children or adults.

More bad has been done in the name of religion than almost anything else. I do think that we should be in more of a defensive mode and let the killing go on in other parts of the world. We cant be the policeman for the whole world without getting paid FOR it

One problem is it's a 1200+ year old religion. Good people will always do good things, bad people will always do bad things, but religion will make good people to do bad things in the name of their god(s). Another is the progressive hatred for the advanced world poisoning the minds of our young. There are some truly idiotic people who are buying the whole US and Western European countries are bad for the rest of the world and should be brought down. And are quite willing to run over to join the ranks of ISIS. Admittedly, some are finding that it isn't all sunshine and lolipops, but by then they are in too deep and find out that it's like being in the mafia. Once you are in, you are in for life. Because some have tried to come back and were captured and killed.

Aw, why deal with reality when PC and O are at play?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOPhr...

Absolutely repugnant!

ISIS is really caught in the stone age with uselessly barbaric behavior designed to scare people into submission. In today's world with instant communications and the ability to dispense with these people quite easily, its a stupid way for them to act. People everywhere will want to distance themselves from ISIS and it will die off of its own stupidity. One could also say that of Hitler- his ideas were so against peoples' idea of humanity that he was destined to fail one way or another. Same with ISIS. I say, let them kill off the various religious sects of arabs until the Arabs themselves have had enough. We should stay out of it unless they actually come over here and try to kill our citizens. At that point, our own citizens will rise up against them with all those guns our own government are trying to take from us.

Seriously? Why should anyone need to fabricate ANYTHING to vilify islam OR O's desire to strengthen it and bring it here.