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The Debate Lesson: America Now Has an Openly Socialist Party

Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 8 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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“With all due respect to Senator Sanders, I don’t think the revolution is going to come, and I don’t think the Congress is going to pay for all this.” Jim Webb
That quote about sums up the plans of every other candidate on the stage at that "debate."


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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, if you think of what inventors do, they may try 99 times to define a particular product or device, and the 100th is it. The 99 before were not failures, but experiments providing data on what did not work. Now, if we are referencing politicians, everything they do is an experiment, and only targets their specfic group of the moment. I would like to believe they are essentially worthless.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And if it's some experimenting with a new job with a string of attempts seven years long?


    Think Halloween.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    and Bush once and that's just on the question of the perverted Patriot Act. Add in the off year elections that's three more.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Pundit equals Spin = Professional Propagandists = Reporters = Liars. Does anyone really care what they 'think' or have thought up? Sure all the dumb asses.

    Does saying this make me pundit? Ouch That's Cold!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Let's back up one step. Like banking insurance is a heavily corporatist and heavily government related industry after all the number two supporter of secular progressive movement is Peter Lewis the billionaire operator of Progressive Insurance. So let's rephrase a bit.

    Health Insurance with their deep pockets AND Government with their bought and paid for regulatory powers failed to provide. in the early fifties five percent of our family budget went to health care - no problems. Government stepped in and bingo nothing but problems ever since. Yet the government cannot fund it's own programs or operate them properly ...Medicare...Military retirees medical care to name two right off the top of my head.

    That said continue with one thumb added.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They aren't in university (which makes one think of universal and broadening deepening ones abilities) to learn they are in university to be programmed (narrowly focused with out ability to think nor reason. How many universities are there in what used to be the traditional sense? Hillcrest and????e

    My high school friend is a logger. Was preparing to send his son off to college. The son had picked Ducks and Roses AKA EMU for Earth Muffin University AKA University of Oregon. "Why are you sending your son to a school that has openly declared war on your means of paying for it and family survival?"

    Two second later the UofO paperwork hit the trash and one of the alternates moved into first place....delayed for some investigating.

    That's what it takes. Boycotting mediocrity.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They want health care.
    Health insurance fails to provide it.
    Making insurance mandatory is government's irrational answer.
    Yet the "debate" moderators never points this out.
    TANSTAAFL.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago
    Now that it is all out in the open it's probably time to set out the definitions again. Not redefining but originally defining the different factions before they were subjected to a century of redefinition. Whose on left...Really

    . Whose on right? Really. And where is the center? Really. Once armed with that information a lot of click click click mysteries disappear and questions are answered. By yourself. Which calls for a new post. so don't look for it here
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There are no two major parties. There is a single major party the Fascist Socialist Progressive Coalition made up of the Democrat face left wing of the left, the RINO face the right wing of the left interchangeably statist and corporatist and of course the kick stand union leaders. The way to think of them is
    Seig Me No Heils, turn your back and walk away. There are always other choices that do not include a coalition of greater and lesser evils.
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  • Posted by broskjold22 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't think a Democrat would want to scare conservatives into voting for the GOP. I think the Democrat wants you to surrender your mind and declare yourself impotent in the face of doctrine. I think I understand your point about what I would call an erosion of principle, but I think that the "wing" you mention above not only sound like socialists, but really are socialists who want to accomplish socialism in their lifetimes.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "If they have bought into this Socialist rhetoric the future is bleak."
    They'll work out that that math doesn't work by age 30.
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  • Posted by nsnelson 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. It seems to me that America has had two openly socialist parties for over a decade. State sponsored public education; the welfare State; ever increasing Centralization of power, away from the local county and state levels; progressive income taxes; national banks and loss of an objective (e.g., gold) standard; the destructive "commerce clause" of the Constitution; the standing army; etc. Both major parties have supported the move toward tyranny, in some ways ever since our country's founding.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They love the term, the single meaning "government" and the payer is "us". Gives total control and leaves us with the bill. Look at Europe for perfect examples.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Part of the debate in the 30's, especially vs bombers. Lots of detail in the book on the British view.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nope....I owned one piece of property and then got out of that as losing proposition moved on to a sailboat and have been enjoying life ever since. I'm sure without resorting to the Patriot Act I still violate at least one law every waking and sleeping moment. How could one possible breathe without doing so these days?
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  • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Great minds and out of the box thinkers must be allowed to make mistakes. One cannot innovate down a proven path.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'll read it - thanks! Tough choices - battleships or not? The cost of building a battleship was about the same as equipping an entire mechanized division and although a battleship looks more impressive, it would be a rare occasion when a division would be totally lost in an afternoon.
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  • Posted by strugatsky 8 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Let me put it this way - have you ever been a landlord? Have you ever written a rental agreement? Would you devote 20 paragraphs out of the 30 in it to enumerate your, the landlord's, responsibilities and punishments should the tenant find your performance below standard?
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