Ben Carson is for a religious theocracy
Ben Carson is not for freedom, he is for enslaving people and he is not intellectually honest since he thinks "our founders were Christians."
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Your a little weak on your philosophy, Paine, Jefferson and the founding fathers were all followers of Locke, but they were not followers of Hume and the Scottish Enlightenment.
Yep, I just have to shake my head at the intolerance of some of the people here.
If you want common-sense guidance to ethical values, check out Rand's list of 7 virtues, http://wiki.objectivismonline.net/Vir.... Compare these to the traditional seven deadly sins. Significantly, pride occurs on both lists, though differently defined.
Ultimately there is the one golden rule variously stated: Treat others as you want to be treated; do unto others as you want done unto you; don't do to others what you don't want done to you; and the clearest formulation, Galt's Oath -- "I swear by my life and my love of it that I shall never live for the sake of another [man] nor ask another to live for mine."
Interactions among individuals are thus by mutual consent for mutual benefit. No one may initiate force or fraud against another. Religion is fraud. Political power is force. Measure your candidates accordingly.
You don't have to agree with Dr. Carson. You don't have to agree with me. But you could make an effort to disagree politely. Tolerance starts with tolerance.
I'm also noticing that your posts mysteriously are all winding up with an extra thumbs up, even though no one has even responded to many of them. So tell me, who is upvoting your posts?
Yes, you like to think of yourself as a "pure" Objectivist and that you openly condemn anything and everything else without toleration. That's your decision. My comment was a response specifically to lrshultis. You aren't invited to comment on why I choose to do things. You claim to own your life, so do I. If you want me to have any respect for you owning your opinions, you'd better demonstrate that that goes both ways.
I'm somewhat baffled by the denial of the undeniable. The founders has NO intention of the church driving America, but they assert that they were not guided by their faith is contradicted by overwhelming evidence to the contrary. No serious scholar can deny it.
But again, we've gone beyond the scope of your initial assertion about Carson. But there, too, he (Carson) has stated emphatically that The Constitution should be the law of the land.
My challenge is to the assertion of theocracy. There doesn't seem to be anything in his history to call into question his devotion to The Constitution (far cry from O, Clintons, or any liberal for that matter).
He also seems to be sincere in his Christian faith, which is another reason to challenge the theocracy assertion. Christianity is antithetical to tyranny. Christianity is about willingly coming to God, not being forced to convert or die.
Again, this discussion isn't about tenants of any faith, it's about an assertion of Carson/theocracy that has not been supported by facts.
Ayn Rand was a brilliant philosopher, but she didn't walk on water. Her writings do not trump those of Locke, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Einstein, and countless others.
You can be a devotee of Rand and still be able to recognize that the Founding Fathers believed our natural rights came from our Creator... that what they themselves wrote. I'm not sure how quoting Rand refutes "endowed by their Creator" inclusion in the seminal founding document.
Good way to put it. Accomplishments cannot come from something that does not exist.
There's a profound difference between "the church" with the pilgrims/colonists were renouncing and Judeo-Christian morality. You seem to be throwing everything you can think of against the wall and hoping something will stick.
There's simply no getting around the fact that the Founding Father were deeply religious men, and it was their belief that our natural rights come from our Creator that guided in the founding principles. Belief in our Creator and reason are not mutually exclusive. Again, one need look no further than their assertion of where our natural rights derive.
This may differ from your philosophy, but simply wanting an apple to be an orange doesn't make it so... A is A.
I don't recall hearing Ben Carson mention his religious position even once in the debate last night.
I'm still deciding on which candidate is my first choice, but Ben Carson and his religiously grounded morality certainly is not my last choice.
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