You're foul... lol

You just reamed the Founding Fathers, since they include these sentiments in their Great Experiment.

They don't have to be excluded for the exercise of freedom. Nor does their inclusion sign the death warrant for freedom. There is a wonderful marriage that can be had, albeit with the occasional 'spats', but nothing terminal.

ok. to your own corners! someone drizzle water over your heads! smelling salts under your noses! now go find other posts!

Those who believe the US is or was great due to God, country, family will prescribe policies that are destructive to freedom. German nationalism for example.

Then my post was totally inane....

You could have meant John Waters, and not Watter's World.

No harm...no foul!

I don't care who notices. you could be wrong for all I know... Waters... Watters...Whatevers.

Get a bigger keyboard!

Actually...no one would have noticed except that you just had to have the 'last word'!

I'd make a really snot nose face at you right now but I don't know how.

In khalling English please?

Talk down to me....

galt's speech
"When men reduce their virtues to the approximate, then evil acquires the force of an absolute, when loyalty to an unyielding purpose is dropped by the virtuous, it’s picked up by scoundrels—and you get the indecent spectacle of a cringing, bargaining, traitorous good and a self-righteously uncompromising evil."
We cannot afford to confuse cause and effect.

Wasn't that my point?

Don't be so rigid...people are a lot more complicated than Rand's characters.

Norman Rockwell's world can exist just fine alongside Rand's world...maybe both would benefit?

America is founded on "principles." it's like I said before-say here in Mexico? these people stronly believe in God. The love their country (even if they go to the US for work, they really want to be mexicans, not norte americanos)so they send much of their wages home, they are fierce about family. I can give examples of this all over the world. Foundations have to do with natural rights(freedom), Constitution protecting property rights, limited govt, capitalist economic structure. NOW, you can love your country, find the time to be with family, and worship or not as you see fit.

Why not 'all of the above'?

all good points. But history also shows, our country flourished on a basis of natural rights, free market, laws of reason. NOT God, Country, and family.

If Waters can't do it, we could get Watters to add that to his To Do list!

I bet 50% of the population couldn't spell OR define the word "pursuit" correctly... Water's should do that one some time....

I agree with him that no one is teaching our youth about the American heritage. From the article:

"Back to the hole in the boat: America is losing its historic literacy. Recently some 556 seniors surveyed at 55 of the nation’s top colleges -- only 60 percent placed the American Civil War in the correct half of the 19th century. Only 34 percent identified George Washington as the American general at the Battle of Yorktown. Thirty-four percent thought it was Ulysses S. Grant. At 78 percent of the institutions polled, no history whatsoever was required in the undergraduate program. Historian David McCullough said, “We are raising a generation of young Americans who are historically illiterate.”

When I was in high school we had a course called 'civics'. We learned about the three branches of government, the balance of power, the Supreme Court, etc. When did this basic introduction to our government get dropped?

Don't answer...I know.

It's the same old, same old - people "forget" it says "pursuit" and substitute "enjoyment".

I say "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"...or "Freedom!!!". Which is on the chopping block as we speak....(some of it is already on the floor in pieces.)