Federal Judge Retires As 'Bad Lapse In Judgment' With 16-Year-Old Surfaces
Yet another "bail out" when things get rugh (ala Lois Lerner) for another high government official, who should be morally uptight and able to render true justice. Until caught. Funny, he was just stepping in to fill in for the Obamanations nominee for SCOTUS, too. "Bad Judgement"...seems HillaryBeast uses that excuse too...
I have seen many young people experiment with drugs like this and say, "Oh my, I would never behave like that if it weren't for the drug." Generally I think this is a white lie and an excuse to test social boundaries. If someone chooses to take, say, 4 oz of vodka and someone slips in 5mg of oxycodone, the people taking the drug will get higher than they wanted to. But if their memory is still functioning and they're able to move around, I am very skeptical of claims that they were raped b/c they didn't know the amount of drug they were taking. Clearly it's wrong and unacceptable to trick someone into taking more drugs than they want, but I don't think of it as rape unless there was force or the victim didn't know what was happening.
I accept the analogy.
I have not followed it closely but I have wondered if drugs are to the Cosby allegation as the age difference is to this case-- both hot buttons to demonize the accused. I can't tell from what I've read where he secretly slipped people powerful drugs that made them not know what they were doing OR if it was something equivalent to either 8 oz of vodka or 10 mg of oxycodone.
Now if it had led to a corrupt decision by the judge, that's a different matter, but if anyone believes that, they should have the guts to say so.
FWIW, I believe the same about Cosby -- he didn't rape anyone, he just shared the drugs he was using himself with women he wanted.
She was not old enough in 1980 to give informed consent. I think that is called statutory something or the other... Regardless of Attorney (Justice) Roberts' actions, intent says it all.
But something else got me thinking... this was 35 years ago. Making her now 51. There were 33 years of her being in the majority and able to file these charges... so WHY DID SHE WAIT THIS LONG??
The whole thing stinks on both sides of this wall...
One of a predatory younger attorney using his position, prestige and power to woo and loot a 16 year old girl of her (alleged) innocence, and
Two, a woman who now, with this beau from her teenage fling from 35 years ago becoming famous (and having both power and income) looking to mooch a meal ticket, e.g. "the prize".
Should be the case of the century - Looter v. Moocher. Where is Judge Narragansett when you need him to try a case?
"Questions of impropriety first surfaced in 2014, when the woman's lawyer contacted the Utah attorney general. Investigators interviewed the woman and several others involved in the old civil rights case, who said they had no inkling of the sexual relations at the time. State officials eventually brought the matter to Paul Cassell, a law professor and former federal judge, for his review. Cassell pointed to "significant evidence" that Roberts engaged in an inappropriate sexual relationship with the then-16-year-old under the guise of "witness preparation," based on the woman's account and a phone call she recorded years later with Roberts."
The timing is an issye, but it seems that they had enough proof to show he did do this while they were in trial. That makes it very unethical. The issue of women thinking they cannot report such things immediately and be believed shows how bad it was then, and I don not think it is any better today.
Yes, the taxpayers should have to pay lifetime salary for this unethical, perverted, looting scumbag.
He deserves a close up and personal demonstration of the physical effects of confined rapidly expanding gases
The age difference is a bogus issue, IMHO. He was 28, and she was 16. Such a relationship is not a good idea in modern society, but it's normal for people at 16 y/o to seek out new things and to start breaking away from their family and to have a relationship with someone they find themselves working with. (I think I'm telling myself this b/c I remember my own indiscretions and my kids are only 10 years away from it!)
Calling someone 35 years later, tricking him to talk about an old relationship from his youth, and secretly recording it to be used for political reasons seems worse than anything in this story.
I truly have no knowledge of this and how it relates to politics and all the childish name-calling that goes alone with it. I'm just saying secretly recording a conversation with someone you had a relationship with decades ago comes off really low.