SHOCKING: Colorado Cancels Caucus, Gives All 34 Delegates To This Candidate

Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 years, 7 months ago to Politics
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And– Cruz capitalizing on delegate and election laws is no different than Trump using bankruptcy laws.

Notice...Trump never showed, he never spoke to delegates...Cruz did...

Seems to me that Cruz did the rationally self-interested thing and it was with in the law or rules Colorado made back in August.


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  • Posted by IamTheBeav 9 years, 7 months ago
    @ Olduglycarl - Thank you for making note of the way Trump has used the bankruptcy laws. I hadn't thought of that, and it's a brilliant point to bring up to any of the crybaby Trump supporters out there. He'll use his high dollar lawyers to bend any rule in the bankruptcy chapter laws to cheat investors and vendors out of hundreds of millions of dollars, but he can't be bothered to read the Colorado GOP's state rules for apportioning delegates when he is trying to run for president.

    Another example of Trump's camp not bothering with the rules for anyone who is not aware, Trump's own kids won't be able to vote for him in the New York primaries, because they didn't read the rules either that have been in place for months. They are A) not Republicans and B) not typically voters anyway, yet somehow, we're supposed to believe that this 70 year old candidate who has proudly bragged about how he has personally bought and sold politicians is going to clean up D.C. He has proudly proclaimed himself a pro-choicer for 69 years, yet somehow now, he's staunchly pro-life. He's said hundreds of times in the past that the government should do this and do that to fix everything in the world, and now he's supposed to be a Constitutionally minded fiscal conservative? Really? If anything, he says to turn the reins over to him, and suddenly things will be great when he has his beak in the treasury's coffers to piss away our tax dollars by the hundreds of billions. The point is that Donald Trump is not a Republican, and he never has been. I could just as easily slap a Mercedes logo on a 1977 AMC Pacer, but that doesn't make it so. The point is that Trump and his whole family are neither fiscally conservative or socially conservative as you'd expect (I do realize how untrue that expectation really is) of a GOP candidate for president. If anything, he's just another lying crybaby New Yorker who believes in big government, and we already have one of those running in the Democrat Party.

    If Donald Trump who routinely brags about hiring only the very best, smartest people can't be bothered to even read the rules, then why she we listen when he throws yet another temper tantrum when he gets his butt kicked. My understanding is that anybody (that's ANYBODY for all you moronic Trump supporters out there) who wanted to participate in the Colorado caucuses was welcome to participate. All they had to do was to show up and make their voices heard. Cruz got the word out to his supporters. Trump did not. Cruz won and Trump lost, fair and square. Nobody was railroaded, nobody got cheated, nobody used (in Trump's own words) Gestapo tactics. The rules for Colorado were made plain as day for all to see all the way back to August of last year, and Trump's camp didn't bother to even read them.
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Where the heck do you get that? He's following the laws...if one doesn't, no matter what they are then the one who does, the one that is informed about all these different perversions will get the nomination...this is not a pretty game and yes, we all wish it was more honest but how is an honest man going to win unless he engages the current paradigm?
    And...Yes, Cruz is an honest man...I have watch him, Mike lee, Rand and Ron Paul for years now.

    We're at the point where we HAVE TO play THEIR game not the game we'd prefer to play.
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 9 years, 7 months ago
    Well, I agree no matter what the "rules". If Trump and Kasich don't even go to the state, why are they whining now?

    Slightly different topic, but one news source (can't remember the link, can't assure accuracy) that Trump has very much benefited from the "winner-take-all" rules of the GOP in some States. Simple arithmetic, it seems to me. Without which, he wouldn't have nearly the delegates he has, and certainly makes Colorado's 34 delegates not even worth talking about. Kind of puts perspective on Trump's whining about "the process".
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 7 months ago
    Cruz is a sneaky bastard. I would NEVER vote for him, EVER. I am tired of even listening to him prattling on and preaching. Foreign governments would laugh at him, as they do Obama. Our only hope is a terribly divided government so nothing happens.
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  • Posted by Abaco 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I understand that at least one delegate who was openly pro-Trump was simply not allowed in. And, the rules you are referring to were put in place after it was known that Trump was entering the race. I don't know, Herb, it stinks to me. They recently changed the rules that had been around for a long time. It's all for nothing because Trump will never get the nomination no matter how many delegates he gets. I think the GOP is kaput.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When you play a game, enter a race, or enter an arena, commons sense tells you to read the rules first. Cruz and his people did. Trump did not, hence everyone predicted a loss for Trump. Apparently even Trump believed it because he made hardly any campaign efforts there. You can't complain if you don't follow the rules and then fail to enter the arena. You can't that is, unless you're Trump.
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  • Posted by Abaco 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But, you're not implying that makes it ok, right? At least...it doesn't seem right to me. It appears as though the GOP just locked Trump out. And, I'm not only not a Trump supporter - I quit voting. I'm just a casual observer. And...what a show!
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  • Posted by bsmith51 9 years, 7 months ago
    The outrage is due to perception, not reality. The reality is that Colorado's Republican Party, as every state's party does, established its own rules (Colorado's published last August) for how they would apportion delegates. Colorado's rules were that those who attended precinct caucuses would decide, and everyone was invited to attend those. Nobody was disenfranchised. (In Washington state, we have precinct caucuses that select delegates to county caucuses that select delegates to state, then to national conventions).
    Trump has chosen to be a victim and score points from his own campaign not doing its homework.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 7 months ago
    In this case, Trump is full of pre-digested frijoles. Trump would have lost Colorado with the way he neglected that state no matter what their election of delegates system was.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 7 months ago
    How does the saying go? Oh yeah...

    Now, non-fiction.
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  • Posted by gsaunder 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. The only good to come out of the Colorado situation is that it provides a wake-up call to the shenanigans that the GOP establishment is ready to employ. And for you Cruzers: beware, you're next on their list.
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  • Posted by mspalding 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It'd be great if the parties paid for their own primaries rather than having taxpayers foot the bill. And then there is the $60 million that the taxpayers 'contribute' to their national conventions. The Libertarians don't take any of that money.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago
    Another comment on Colorado. We have a Colorado licensed pickup truck in our area that insists on parking on the sidewalk completely blocking it side to side. Not uncommon but this one is a gringo not a local. One has to walk into the traffic lane, normal, but also the bus loading lane if one is present. I got disgusted with the Ugly American act glared at the guy who leaves it there for hours at a time and said, "Must be the pot. or just another tourist. He took offense at the second term. I didn't care. But I realized how many show up and think they own the country. It's so common place that when two police cars were parked at each end of the affected area he still parked on the sidewalk and got upset when his truck was towed. The locals finally got tired of it and complained as their role is block half the sidewalk....

    That aside this whole discussion really shows what a light weight Trump is...He may not be a red herring but he's certainly with the opposition.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The GOP and the Democrats as faithful members of the single party system will do what they are told to do. Nothing new there the only real question is the veracity of people like Soros and the standard establishment. Who really owns who? Is the current aristocracy controlling the SecProgs or vice versa? Either way it's all a one party system and using those old fashioned labels is silly.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Not noted for being left wing puppets in some circles but it's rather apparent to the general population and so is the candidate list which backfired on them this time and so is the single party system of government they are running.
    I don't believe they are noted for much else.
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  • Posted by Abaco 9 years, 7 months ago
    The GOP is finished. It's over for these checkpants, blueblood, beltway, $16/plate for our troops in Afghanistan, country club, mush butt, statist losers. It's sad, because there really will be no opposition to Hillary (as the Dems are going to do the same thing to Bernie).
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 7 months ago
    I have probably written it a hundred times here, the GOP will only nominate a candidate that the insiders control. The voters have not had a role in selecting the candidate for president in decades. (Not that the other statist party is any better. Voters who want a voice should be voting Libertarian in the tens of millions.)
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  • Posted by $ 9 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No they are not "noted" for that but the last 40 years or so the progressive have invaded the party...incidentally...that was predicted in 1958 in the "Naked Communist"...our first hint was with Nixon and aside from Regan it got worse from there...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 7 months ago
    Wow they are acting like a real party all independent and everything. Party primaries are nobody's business except party members. The GOP has a well deserved reputation of not only supporting government over people, not only of supporting left wing fascist socialism but of being the lapdogs of the left. Nice to see one state that get's it.
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