Donald Trump's 'kinder, gentler' version

Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 1 month ago to Politics
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Trump described himself as an Ayn Rand fan. He said of her novel The Fountainhead, “It relates to business (and) beauty (and) life and inner emotions. That book relates to ... everything.” He identified with Howard Roark, the novel's idealistic protagonist who designs skyscrapers and rages against the establishment.


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 1 month ago
    That's a very thin slice of what Trump has said.So thin I don't recall him saying it. It is not a representative view but as a leftist I can see why your side would be reaching out when your own candidates are so unacceptable.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 1 month ago
    he's a fan of Roark like I'm a fan of Rand;;; neither
    of us can hold a candle to the real character. -- j
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a difficult time with a guy who says the system is corrupt, when he loses, but is okay when he's ahead.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know, a rather large portion of the establishment and media certainly do seem to be out to get him. Millions are being spent to get him, other candidates are running with the goal of stopping him even if they can't win themselves.

    It may be simply recognizing reality.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think he would veto anything that he thought wouldnt make america great again.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    But it can get a lot worse if Hillary or Sanders gets in there. Picking the least bad was even a good alternative for Ayn Rand.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 1 month ago
    Somehow, I think Trump's "the whole world is out to get me" attitude disqualifies him as a serious objectivist.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    What makes you think he would be more of a Tyrant than any of the others? Because he has a big ego -- don't kid yourself ALL of them have massive egos, some are just lest honest about it.

    He says he will work with congress, what he will do when they don't go along is an interesting question. He is used to having agreements to get things built.
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    We need WAY better than "4 years of Trump would not be a bad thing". Trump is just a somewhat different version of Tyrant.

    We need a GOOD thing, but nobody out there can turn this mess around... it's way too late.
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  • Posted by $ CBJ 8 years, 1 month ago
    Trump has come up with some concrete policy proposals on his website. The ones dealing with health care, taxation and gun rights are surprisingly pro-liberty, much more than I would have expected. Worth a read:
    https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 1 month ago
    My greatest problem with Trump is the façade he places before himself. I know that there is a real man there if I could get past that barrier. The shield is composed of rhetoric and bluster, helping him avoid answering questions he is ignorant about and pandering to what he thinks his followers want to hear him say. Perhaps his mention of Rand and The Fountainhead is a chink in the armor which shows a possible part of the genuine Trump. But then, how can one tell?
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree. While not bad that he likes Rand, unfortunately, whether the interviewer was trying to make a subtle point or not, his campaign is nothing if not a "tyranny of groupthink". Not saying that others aren't, but he doesn't get a pass. And, to paraphrase another politician: "Sir, I've met Howard Roark. I was a friend of Howard Roark. You, sir, are no Howard Roark".

    But, good post.
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  • Posted by H2ungar123 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump mentioning Rand = good. Trump calling
    Cruz the "p" word = totally unnecessary and
    totally disgusting....liked him until this low-class
    no-class act.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago
    I watched the CNN town hall with Trump last night, and was very encouraged more by Ivanka's responses to the questions asked. I would say Trump is a pretty good father when it comes to raising kids, which is encouraging to me. All of them said he is a very hard worker with passion, and I think thats missing in our recent presidents. It will be a good think when he is elected. He certainly has my vote. The worst of all worlds would be years and years of listening to Hillary and watching what she would do TO us.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Have fun with Hillary as your next president. Of course, she is NOT statist at least....
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    At least with Trump, political correctness is not used as a way to hide what he really thinks. He (and the rest of his family for that matter, as came out in the CNN town hall last night) has no problem telling us what he is thinking. I like that. Politicians like Hillary hide what they are thinking and just tell us what they think we want to hear. I am SO done with career politicians today, and that includes Cruz and Rubio, and even Kasich. They all make their money from politics. Trump made his money in business and really doesnt need to do this "run for president" thing at his age. I really think he is just fed up with politics, and has really touched a nerve with a LOT of people. 4 years of Trump would not be a bad thing- certainly a LOT better than any of the other electable candidates.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 1 month ago
    I can see why Trump would have liked Howard Roark. They do have some things in common, particularly architecturally and with regard to their architecture having to be done their way without modification, but otherwise their values are quite different.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess I didn't see it as much. I'm used to liberal commentators bursting into flame and melting down whenever Ayn Rand is mentioned. This seemed reasonably cordial.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Trumps policies are not at odds with his main goal. Trumpism. Meaning the Trump is the main goal. Yes this another hit piece from the Constitutional Center. But it isn't the last one. Objectively speaking.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 8 years, 1 month ago
    Hello WiliamShipley,
    Trump's statism, albeit in some ways in a preferred direction, policy wise, is still at odds with objectivism and small government. Still it is a pleasant sign that he appreciates something Rand. It is impossible to know what, if any, firm convictions and principles Trump holds and would govern by, due to caprice and contradictions in his past and present statements. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to get inside a politician's head and find what convictions they truly have? I fear once inside we would find only despotism or dust in most of them.
    Respectfully,
    O.A.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I got that, William. That also makes it seem to be a hit piece from the viewpoint of the anti-Ayn biased media. (Not meaning to kill the messenger either, WS;^)
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    It's seemed a reasonable interview. I posted it because Trump specifically mentioned Rand so it is of interest to the Gulch.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years, 1 month ago
    Is this another hit piece against Trump?
    Just about everything they quote Trump saying reeks of statist status quo and is disgusting to me.
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