John Stossel on Common Core

Posted by $ blarman 11 years, 5 months ago to Education
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Competition = advancement, bureaucracy = stagnation

I think he gets it right. How about you?


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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Big time. I can't help but think that he is the gov' s voice box for this because of some deal made with Microsoft for extreme citizen surveillance programs...and some how tied up with his monopoly case. He was bought.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Tooche. One last thing one does not speak to me at all anymore because I am an F$ing idiot. I got under her skin.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wouldn't be able to be in the same room with them without demanding answers from them that make sense. They'd call me some names and leave. OR I'd take the meat and go. (I don't willingly feed the enemy.)
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  • Posted by Notperfect 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hey shrug just try asking my family hard line members and they just get angry because it does not fit their agenda or their ideas of how they want to take over. They are blinded by the fact they cannot think on their own so whatever my entity says is gospel and your wrong.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting that you should mention that, because I just read another article that points out the exact same thing. Guess who was the champion? Bill Gates.
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  • Posted by KYFHO 11 years, 5 months ago
    John Stossel uses logic, reason and facts, so he does get it right. My bigger problem with common core is the brainwashing. Hopefully the lead I cut and paste will be usable. Notice how they brainwash under the guise of teaching sentence structure/English:
    http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/05/13/the-...
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ignorance is a tool with which to bypass reason. The uninformed frequently get manipulated by emotional arguments into prematurely taking a side, upon which it becomes difficult for them to admit they were duped. It is an unfortunately highly effective play on ego for which real information and a dedication to the truth are the only real weapons of combat. It is also one of the reasons the media keep pushing a sound-bite mentality of limited attention span.

    Back when the US was being founded, entire days were spent debating single policies in local town councils. People wanted to make sure they had fully informed themselves about an issue before taking a vote and as a result, we got much better policy-making. The current trend could not have been better described by the quip "never let a catastrophe go to waste". It focuses not on the argument, but on how to use the argument to manipulate and inflame the emotions of the populace toward supporting whatever policy dictates suit one's agenda.
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  • Posted by flanap 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah articles like this just tickle the ears of the "concerned, but not involved" who really don't know what the hell is going on.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wasn't being defensive. I was asking a question. And since we're still on the subject, I think I'm starting to disagree with the whole be pleasant approach after a certain point of not getting real answers from teachers etc. And you gave me an idea to blog about. I'll post it later. :) thanks.
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  • Posted by NealS 11 years, 5 months ago
    What about the content of the Common Core's subject matter and the tests? Much of it is about marching to the tune of the government and mostly in a liberal direction. How would they feel about Common Core if it marched to the tune of religion, and used God as the subject matter and examples to get the educational points across? Perhaps the content of the text materials is another subject matter entirely.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It lacks morality. It's hypocritical. I find it repulsive and conflicted. Yet he's very well liked because he's "nice". ??? I prefer honest.
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  • Posted by brs02 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was a general comment on the approach to educators not an accusation directed toward you.... see how easily defense mechanisms kick in
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed, but many people only look at it from a money perspective. They do not think rationally about the ends - only the means. They falsely equate means with ends, ie more money = more success. They ignore the results that say that the volume of money has almost zero correlation with the effectiveness of education.
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  • Posted by wiggys 11 years, 5 months ago
    It really makes no difference that the po is mandated it is still a poor functioning money losing proposition.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes! And an in depth lesson in all that can be found in Teaching Johnny to Think by Peikoff. Thank you for bringing that up. And this way of thinking, or not thinking, is showcased in Peikoff' s Ominous Paralells... about history's dictators and how they came to be in power. Easily done when the people lack the ability to reason logically. History is repeating itself and most have zero clue anything wrong or what is barreling down the hill towards them.
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  • Posted by $ 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Isn't that the reality? So many of them suffer from NiMB (Not in My Backyard) syndrome. It's the same with wind turbines, wildlife preservation, waste disposal...
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  • Posted by wiggys 11 years, 5 months ago
    the reality is just like the post office not going away and the other "public" entities Stossel notes not going away "common core" is not going to go away. they will see the faults and "try" to fix them as government always tries to do with any program etc. that is created. could be a make work project to keep people of no capability working!
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Our principal talks in favor of it too..... however his own young kids are not in public schools...hmmmmm
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was asking co workers. Politely. It was conversation....why the accusation that I was accusatory or aggressive? Asking forthright questions shouldn't be taken offense to, we're adults and we all deserve honest answers. And we should be talking about plenty of important current events. They Don't seem interested in discussing much of anything.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 11 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wasn't. I said the majority. I work at a school. I'm speaking from my own experience. I'm in a red state too. Common Core Hasn't hit here as hard yet as other places, but it's coming and I'm removing myself on the last day of school... next week. I was a testing machine in kindergarten. It's crazy. 9 years there and they want me to be a robot. Bye! I want no part of it. They're losing me and it's their loss.
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