The Mark: Scientist Claims Human Microchip Implants Will Become "Not Optional"
They will have to physically force this on me. Hell, I won't even use a GPS and my cell phone is older than dirt.
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At risk of the accusation of paranoia, there is really nothing standing in the way of the current U.S. Administration's implanting devices into anyone it wants to monitor, without their knowledge or consent, right now.
Under Obamacare, doubly so.
The doctor in charge of your chart would certainly be an obstacle, but the government can bring an incredible amount of coercive pressure to bear, particularly on someone who's an upstanding professional with a well-established life, career and family.
So yes, as JLC said, unless there's a catastrophic collapse of technology (virtually impossible,) the only choice we have in this matter is to reclaim the people intellectually, and end Gangster Government via an intellectual sea change.
Given decades of the Republican "leadership" conceding to militant collectivists the education of generations of Americans, and given that educational corruption's metastasizing under Communist Core, the outlook looks pretty grim, at least for the better part of this coming century.
On that note, some cathartic rock 'n' roll from Mr. Rundgren and the boys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOymRNFrP...
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Jan
Let us say, Ranter, that you avoid being microchipped (as would I). The next level of urban scrutiny may well be 'sniffers' that sample the DNA imprint of those passing by and trace their movements accordingly. We would then have to come up with some other method of preserving anonymity to fool that system. This cycle of surveillance and avoidance could continue indefinitely.
I think that a better answer is to change our culture such that this level of scrutiny is considered unacceptable...but this requires that a preponderance of the people actually do not want to be traced. It is the security/freedom dichotomy again. Failing this, we who value freedom will have to come up with a technical solution to each problem. This is not a case of a sudden 'apocalypse', it is an endurance race by those people who will not give up valuing freedom.
Jan
As technology progresses (and is kinda already here), they could very easily implant a nano-sized device that is next to impossible to find physically without using a combination of sensors to triangulate its location.
Or they could install multiple in different locations so if one is removed, the others take over and alert the government that one was removed.
Tech is at a point that a lot of things can be done autonomously in an instant.
Honestly, there's a lot that could be done, and I believe that the ones who are going to come out on top are going to be the ones who can react to technology the fastest (read: not the feds in their current instantiation). The losers can either react with overwhelming force, or realize they're lagging behind and change. The way the media responds will determine if they react with overwhelming force or not.
I am aware of this possibility as a result of having worked a bit with (a) search and rescue dogs and (b) clinical laboratory. In the latter, serious work is going into confirming a patient ID by genetic markers...one of the major problems with lab work is that specimens get mixed up and the wrong results can be reported on a patient. If your automated analyzers all check DNA tags on their samples you can catch most of these discrepancies.
Jan
My point is that this is merely technology. I am not too concerned about it being put into use because any where that can sponsor a maker-lab, abortion clinic, or illicit drug lab can also provide for inactivation, exchange, or optional use of these devices.
The battle is not to outwit an implanted RFID; the battle is for there to be someone left who would want to.
Jan
Parents are already doing this to their children out of fear of child kidnapping. They think of it like a human 'Lotrack' for safety.
As one poster noted below, it would be all too easy to remove an implanted chip. But you can't change the distance between your pupils. Granted, most cameras are above eye level now, so broad-brimmed hats most likely provide some protection. But that is bound to change. I can just imagine the rationale....terrorists are buying groceries, so the new cameras are FOR YOUR PROTECTION....
Akitas. They do not chip their dogs, but one
which they bought directly from Japan had been
chipped prior to departure; she was also the
only one who died of bone cancer a few years
later. Co-incidence ?
The fact that this website is claiming that cell phones are a form of enslavement should be a huge tipoff that the entire site is nonsense. Disregard.
If you want to know what Mark Gasson ACTUALLY said on this matter, you can watch his full TEDx speech here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvheQ9lf...
In ancient times, tyrannical governments would often require people to get special tattoos before they were permitted to buy or sell in the public market. THAT'S what the Biblical "Mark of the Beast" refers to. People need to stop thinking these ancient texts predict the future. They don't. They're not about our day and age, they're about about the day and age in which they were written.
You say that there is possible cheating and control with a credit/debit card, and that's true, but there has always been possible cheating and control with any form of money for as long as money has existed. That's not something new.
I shouldn’t be able to draw a line for what I consider the sanctity of my personal space? I believe this is an alienable right.
To me a debit/credit card is like a hat. When I want do business I put it on my hat and wear it in public. But that is NOT who I am.
That's my own personal experience. I'll see if I can find something more than my word to qualify it for you.
found a few:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/02/13/ban...
http://bankofamericaboycott.com/
http://www.wnd.com/2005/05/30509/
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/...
There was another story a little while ago about how some Socialist groups in Sweden tried to push for a guaranteed income for all Swedish citizens, but the measure was ultimately rejected by the public.
Just because some group petitions an idea, that doesn't automatically mean it's going to be implemented.
666: The Number of the Beast - Numberphile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZqFtYt...
You say RFID chips could allow the government to block a person from the marketplace, and I'm just pointing out they can already do that right now. All they need to do is call your bank and tell them to freeze your account. I don't see why the physical location of the microchip, whether it's in your skin or in a credit card, makes any difference.
The only reason they aren't now is because cash is readily available in society. Personally, I will go out of my way to pay in cash or pickup a gift card before using my debit or credit cards. Sure they can do it now through a variety of steps but there is still an alternative that they cannot track.
Please remember I'm a sci-fi author. I'm not technophobic in the least. I'm just extraordinarily distrustful of mankind and their ability to leave me alone to pursue my happiness (as I'm entitled to via the US Constitution).
I kid, I kid. But seriously, paper money can lose its value, too. Granted, that happens for the currency itself, rather than for an individual person, but it's still an inevitability for any currency not backed by gold.
And like I said before, you can circumvent your bank account being frozen by utilizing alternative currencies under hidden accounts which exist outside the official banking system. Of course, this limits your purchasing power to retailers which accept the particular currency you happen to be using, but the ability to engage in commerce is still there, albeit severely limited.
Plus you could also potentially open new bank accounts in the official "government sanctioned" system under a new name, and convert your alternative currencies back into the official currency, possibly by funneling them through a proxy corporation of some kind.
No matter what kind of restrictions the government puts in place, the black market always finds a way around them.