What About Black Lives Matter?

Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 6 months ago to Culture
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For two years the protest movement called "Black Lives Matter" has caused demonstrations all around the nation. It was triggered by the police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, MO in August of '14. It holds that racist police are the greatest threat to young black men. This has triggered riots, and the murder or attempted murder of police and an attempt to eliminate grand juries when police use lethal force.

The U.S. Justice Department has completely disproven that Brown was merely a Gentle Giant and was shot in cold blood while trying to surrender. Even though it was shown that Brown had just stolen from and intimidated a store owner and was charging at the officer who shot him, and had attempted to get the officer's gun, he is venerated as a martyr.As a result, officers are backing off in the face of the hatred which is relentlessly directed at them on the street and in the media. As a result, violent crime is on the rise. The question becomes do the police pose the greatest threat to young black men? Or is it the far greater threat of black-on-black crime?


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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, I think there is a new culture- the entitled welfare culture that extracts wealth from other unwilling persons. They dont live off the land, they dont deal in real property or intellectual property rights. They deal in political and manipulative "entitlements". Walk down the street (at least in Las Vegas and San FRancisco) and listen to the bums work you for money and what reasons they give why you should give them the money to see what I mean.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your points are well taken.

    I would do whatever I needed to do to protect myself, and that would include killing the offender without losing a minute of sleep over it.

    I am not suggesting that any of the current non lethal methods are as effective as blowing holes through the bodies of perps. BUT, it would seem that some research into more effective non lethal methods might result in fewer lethal shootings and the legal and political fallout from them.

    My assessment of police shootings is totally non scientific, and probably the result of media attention. It makes me just not want to be around police, however. They advertise they are there to protect and serve, but it just seems they are they are to give out tickets and arrest people walking down the street and find laws that the people are violating (victimless crimes like possessing weed, or selling oranges on the streetcorner).

    The cops seem to be cash registers for the cities and counties, especially when the fines go to the very agencies that pay for the police. Its crooked and should be stopped.
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    FEAR is the thing that's paralyzing everyone. Honest blacks won't say anything for fear of being called an uncle tom. Whites won't say anything for fear of being called racist. The problem is that there will be no solution until everyone gets off it, and speaks clearly and honestly. Until then, nothing will change. If we're going to be like John Galt (and Francisco and Ragnar), we MUST be willing to face the ire of the uneducated and the evil. If not, we're part of the problem.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Family is where value dissemination starts. When family disintegrates, public schooling then becomes the method for indoctrination. And that is precisely what socialists want.
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is no black culture. There is no white culture (or Asian or Hispanic, for that matter). There are only THREE cultures on Earth: hunter gatherer; agrarian; industrial. Hunter gatherers live off the land, foraging and hunting big game. Agrarians extract wealth from the earth, with their focus being on property rights and inheritance rights in land. Industrial culture extracts wealth from ideas (intellectual property), so we have property rights and inheritance rights in ideas. That's what distinguishes the various cultures from each other. All the rest is BS.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The most deadly confrontations for police are "domestics," where the victims can turn unpredictably to attackers, killing or maiming police who are deliberately repressing the use of force. Until the general public stops the "Monday morning quarterbacking" of deadly confrontations they are completely unqualified to criticize, the phony image of the homicidal cop will persist.

    Until you find yourself in a confrontation with a dangerous criminal and have to make a decision to do anything to stop him or face death or injury, you can't possibly claim how much kinder and gentler you would be. As to the "less than lethal" solution, there are numerous incidents of tasers having no effect on violent offenders, and people dying from rubber bullets, so the technology is unreliable at best.

    I've known enough good cops to verify the bad ones are a rare exception in the profession. The media always promotes and inflates the most outrageous incidents, and rarely do the acts of courage and compassion get much attention beyond local news.
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  • Posted by blackswan 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here's a black in the Gulch. All this quibbling over police shootings enables the left to ignore the slaughter going on in Planned Parenthood. The documented police shootings of blacks comes to about 2 per WEEK. The slaughter at Planned Parenthood comes to about 1,500 per DAY; nearly equivalent to the losses the US sustained on D-Day - every day. There should be over 60 million blacks in the US. Today, there are only around 40 million, basically unchanged for over a decade. Yet, you hear nothing but crickets. So, the answer should be to fully enforce the law, with the attitude of "when morale improves, the beatings will stop." The aggressive policing that reduced crime in NYC to the relative level of Mayberry shouldn't be abandoned because of BLM or any other group, and if they don't like it, then they can move.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And even the figures for everyone else is way too high. We are coming very close to the complete dissolution of the family and having children raised by the state. Then once that happens it'll be the marching morons of the future.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Absolutely. And you would no doubt have to take that action without any police around to protect you.

    My comment was a suggestion that we as a people find non-lethal but equally effective ways of stopping a dangerous situation than using guns.

    The problem with guns is the legal consequences that follow their use. God forbid you killed a black person today who threatened you. What if you only wounded them and then had to pay them huge sums to compensate them. Plus the hassle of dealing with it all.

    If there was some sort of better technological solution that would stop the threatening behavior, but left them permanently unhurt and you free of court proceedings, it would be a better solution so long as it was effective.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Some riots are actually grass roots, but once started, the pros quickly become a part of it.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Depends on your community. Apathy to 911 in NYC is not what goes on in other places. However, a gun or two in the home, safely and strategically placed along with a good alarm system would be a good idea. Unless you live in a village with 2,000 or less population, -- and even then.....
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It was pretty much dead, but now the baiters are reviving racism (overwhelmingly against whites).

    And the government trying to "help" the poor is indeed the biggest cause. Stop subsidizing single mothers to breed, and they'll stop breeding to "earn" a living.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    At this point, I really dont care about political correctness anymore. They can call me what they want. I could care less now what race a person is from. I do care what culture they come from, as it will most likely affect how they act in various situations. I dont like the entitled black culture that is prevalent now at all and I just try to stay away from it as much as possible. I dont like the welfare entitled culture that seems so prevalent today either.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Crime prevention is more the purview of civilians with police cooperation. Again it goes back to the family, morality, ethics, which is a totally screwed up situation in the country in general, but more so in the black community.. The facts do not bear out your statement about police shootings.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Depends on whose doing the counting and what the definition of the day might be. The whole list is so racist all it means that the printer of the paper on which the lists are found is the lead proponent agency for continued racism, sexism bigotry and whatever else. 100 to 1 odds at the top and bottom it will 'government.'
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The only correction I would provide is to change the words "civil rights leaders" to "race-baiting poverty pimps," the term used by J. C. Watts (former Oklahoma Congressional representative and all-American quarterback for OU). Watts felt that to use the term "civil rights leader" to describe Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton was an insult to the real standard bearers like MLK.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    They have tasers and pepper spray, but I'll tell you this, if a miscreant threatened my life in any way, I'd have no compunction about killing him/her.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are certainly not alone. If people are honest about it, most of them would say the same as you. But they fear the racism label.
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  • Posted by LarryHeart 9 years, 6 months ago
    The greatest threat to Police and young black men are young black men. Digging deeper, the culture that breeds violence, Islamic terrorist influence in Jails, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the others who instill hatred for whites, white shame and guilt and victim mentality entitlement that leads to welfare, broken families, unsafe, drug filled housing projects and gangs. Just to name a few.

    Just a note that none of the violence and riots are grass roots. They are all started by paid agitators. The community wants peace and Police protection.
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  • Posted by Riftsrunner 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The only problem I have with this analysis is that police are there to protect individuals (rights or liberties). The Supreme Court has ruled that a police force's charge of protection is only as far as to the community. They have zero obligation to protect individuals at all. So if you are being attacked in your home by a home invader and call 911, they aren't required to come save and protect you. And if you somehow are damaged by their apathetic response, you have no legal recourse to remedy the situation due to governmental immunity.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Obama has done more to hurt the cause of oppressed black people than anyone. I always stuck up for black people and treated them as equals. Now, I just want nothing to do with their entitled black and pretty much useless culture.
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