Jan, I have to disagree. From the ruling:

(2) This reasoning also shows the invalidity of the Government’s other arguments. It reasons that corporate political speech can be banned to prevent corruption or its appearance. The Buckley Court found this rationale “sufficiently important” to allow contribution limits but refused to extend that reasoning to expenditure limits, 424 U.S., at 25, and the Court does not do so here. While a single Bellotti footnote purported to leave the question open, 435 U. S., at 788, n. 26, this Court now concludes that independent expenditures, including those made by corporations, do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption. That speakers may have influence over or access to elected officials does not mean that those officials are corrupt. And the appearance of influence or access will not cause the electorate to lose faith in this democracy. Caperton v. A. T. Massey Coal Co. , 556 U. S. ___, distinguished. Pp. 40–45.

The Supreme Court found that:
(c) For these same reasons, this Court affirms the application of the §§201 and 311 disclaimer and disclosure requirements to Hillary . Pp. 55–56.

They took a basic case of a Non Profit, wanting to ensure that it's protection under the First Amendment, gave it a secure tright to call Hiillary what she is. The Court then decided to throw in a bunch of other interpretations as well, and the one killer was when they said that there is no limit on corporations or groups spending money on ads, as long as they disclose who paid for it (which is what they did to CU). This basically took the teeth out of the BCRA, which was the "fix" for all the money being thrown around then, and opened it up so any one, or corporation, can throw as much as they want into a front organization, and then produce ads etc and it becomes "Concerned Citizens against Sea Turtles" or whatever. That meets their crazy requirements, and they addressed the fact that "contributors may be rightly concerned over their privacy and harassment". This opened the door to all the crap we see now, where it is free season for all the money in the world to be laundered through front groups. So the Lobbyists do buy politicians, they just do it behind a veil of secrecy.

The case screwed everybody, but serves both parties equally. They could just as easily struck down a load of decisions where political money has been found legal in many different scenarios, and just told Congress to get their act together and come up with a single law that describes all the political races rules, so it is an even playing ground and money is taken out.

Take a look at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/htm...

Lobbying, even though maybe having been going on for thousands of years, is still fundamentally corrupt, at least when any gratuity, money, trips, jobs, houses, etc, is exchanged for either votes or offices. IMHO, of course...

You've swallowed a DemonRat lie. Citizens United has nothing to do with corporations buying politicians (which is called lobbying, went on for thousands of years before Citizens United, and will continue as long as politicians have favors to sell). Citizens United was a blatant attempt to suppress a movie that embarassed Hillary Clinton, and the Supreme Court decided the case correctly.

Watch the movie here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQKAa...

I guess maybe they needed to add "Catch me if you can"?

Well, he can get pretty pissy if you ask the wrong question he doesn't want to answer. Like: "Why did you have Vince Foster murdered?" or the infamous "sexual relations" lie.

That is the issue. When they were obviously bought out and came to the crazy conclusion that corporations are people, and opened the door to them buying politicians, that was when I knew we were in deep doo. There is no check on government now, as any part of it is for sale to the higest bidder. Recalling would be a problematic as any election, in that the "voting public" has been dumbed down to the point they just want to know what whoever is going to give them this week. The congressman who ratted them out a few weeks ago said as much, and also said all they do is promise them the moon with no intent to deliver anything but what their lobbyist owners tell them to. There seems no good answer at this point, since people now are to lazy to want to do any thinking, research, or even read.

Amen to that. This is why I'd amend the constitution to allow the Supreme Court to remove a president if he disobeys one of their orders.

Then again, that makes the Court all-powerful, so we need a way to remove Justices, too. Perhaps a recall by the voting public.

Allen Kane knocked sharply on the door of the double-wide, and in a few moments it opened.

"Good morning, Ma'am," Allen said as he suppressed an involuntary grimace. "My name's Wade. The Director sent me to speak with you." He held out the credentials of an ATF agent he had killed two days before. The woman peered at them momentarily through her thick glasses. Then she opened the aluminum screen door and ushered Allen Kane into the drab surroundings.
"What is it now? More hearings again?" she asked as she turned to close the door. Allen glanced around, confirming that no one else was nearby.
"Nothing that complicated," he said as he withdrew Wilson Blair's Beretta 92 from the zippered folio he carried, jammed it in the woman's mouth, and pulled the trigger. The steel-cored 9mm 'Cyclone' bullet went through her soft palate and blasted a hole out the back of her skull. Brain tissue and cerebro-spinal fluid sprayed onto the wall as the slug chopped though several layers of drywall and came to rest in a 2x4 at the far corner of the structure. As the slide cycled, the front sight chipped one of the corpse's front teeth.
The shapeless body collapsed in a heap on the floor. Allen Kane wiped off the gun with his handkerchief.
He wrapped the cloth around the pistol's slide and haphazardly pressed the grip against the dead woman's right hand. Then he tossed the weapon four feet away onto the cheap carpeting. He took an envelope from the pocket of his suit coat and tore the end off it. He shook it, and out fell a folded note which landed on the floor next to the corpse.

I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY read the words which had been printed in felt-tip
ink with the aid of a ruler.

(above Excerpt from Unintended Consequences by John Ross)
http://www.amazon.com/Unintended-Cons...

At least the female Clinton can't hide her bitchiness. Bill, AKA The Charmer, gives that good old boy smile while he inserts the blade, or some other insertion.

Obama can't pardon her if she is not charged. I hope they wait, but I bet he knows it, and is having the FBI gather all the data to see if it is compelling before charging her. If not, he leaves it ambiguous. If so, he has them charge her, and then drums up a "...Yes, but they all did it before. It was wrong, but we now established a new precedent for conduct. It would be inappropriate to "single" her out..." defense for his action to pardon her.

Well,....yes. But it still would be really nice to see her finally have to come to terms with some of the crap her and Billy boy have done.

Worked for Rome, and the last few hundred years sucked.

about time

We shouldn't want the Obama admin to do it, because they can also press for exoneration and pardon her, and she can't be retried for the same crime later.

The question might be, "Will the Trump admin prosecute her". I suspect no, unless she really irritates Trump in the election. Otherwise, I suspect he'll treat another of the elite, like the elite, so his elite union card doesn't get dirty.

She has powerful friends who protect her. Look at the $$ sanders has spent to no avail

I think we are witnessing the beginning of the end of the two party system. There are really 5 parties today led by Johnson, trump, Cruz, hildebeast, and sanders.

I read somewhere that big societies seem historically to last 250 years plus or minus during which the people forget the principles upon which the society became great, and cronyism takes over. We are about at this point under this authors analysis. It was a historical observation but sounded pretty good to me

You hit it! Yet the unwashed masses have been hypnotized since they first showed up in the backwoods out of their tar-paper shack...

Where so I get a ticket? It's on my bucket list.

That is a perfect description of the Clinton Gang, I had to steal it to my FB page. They are just like any addictive substance, and attract weak minded fools looking to feel good, or get rich, or get something. When they get done using you (or us), they all end up like Vince Foster. Thanks Dino!

That is all true, and the power of the Clinton gang to get and spread money and influence is always underestimated. Vince Foster found out the hard way. You don't cross them and live, which is part of the mystique. They make the Mafia look like a gang of schoolyard bullies.

I volunteer to hold the rope..oops it slipped...oh that was the trap door?

That is indeed Truth, John.

I would say Bernie is more "Anti Democrat Party Today" which is the same party Hillary and Bill took over, and have been taking over for 20 years or so. She never fell off the radar, but bided her time, and there is a huge Clinton gang ensconced in the Party. They do not own the people, though, and are too arrogant to consider that a threat. If enough votes are tampered with, you could elect a baby duck president. The move to electronic voting, mail vote, "get a drivers license and vote even if not a citizen" programs, have all been the tools they have set in place to "get what is rightfully theirs". Do not underestimate their ability, there was a metric butt ton of fraud in 2012, and yet nothing, no one, ever got prosecuted or was any investigations done. They took the hanging chad problem and turned it around.

That is very sound logic.The only wild card is the impact of information sources today. The Obamanation has been installed with a whole gaggle of special interests who saw "their time" had come. And it did. We have had 8 years of total incompetency and brazen abuse of law and justice. Of course there was similar, but much less obvious abuse in the time before, but the last 8 years was so blatant, a much larger crowd of uncommitted people who stood by in the last 2 rounds are now clearly fed up with it, and will take anyone who will put an end to all of it. Or just go back to the old ways.