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Gary Johnson Booed at Libertarian Party Convention for Calling William Weld 'the original libertarian'

Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 4 months ago to Politics
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"Various delegates I've spoken with share that sentiment, and some of the ones who know William Weld best—particularly longtime New York L.P. hand Richard Cooper—vowed to me that they would move heaven and earth to deny Weld the V.P. slot."

(Veeps are elected separately at L.P. conventions.)
SOURCE URL: http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/27/gary-johnson-booed-at-libertarian-party


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 4 months ago
    [Sarcasm]They booed him b/c if it weren't for him we'd have so many viable liberty-oriented choices to vote for.[/sarcasm]
    I want him to defeat Trump and Clinton. Then we can complain how Johnson/Weld are not ideal. I'd actually love that scenario. It's a dream scenario. The next step, though, is to help Johnson win the general. Then we can complain about the non-idealities.
    I was going to vote for and we did give money to Clinton, but Johnson is a chance of a lifetime.

    Johnson is promising to fight for liberty, but he admits aloud electing him alone won't solve the problems. But what a huge thing it would be. Republicans who don't like Trump will vote for him. "Tech-optimist Democrats" or whatever you call people like me will vote for him.

    Many people supported him before it was cool. I was for Clinton until I saw the poll showing > 10% b/c I thought it was pissing in the wind. I urge people who would boo him to vote for him and when he is POTUS they can complain he's not libertarian enough.
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    • Posted by BrettRocketSci 9 years, 4 months ago
      His pick of Weld is a big disappointment, but I'm still waiting for results of the convention to say who the VP actually is. Whoever, I'm definitely voting LP in the general election. Trump and Hillary are both impossible to vote for with any rational concern for the future of a free country.
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      • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago
        Weld was chosen VP on the 2nd ballot (just as Johnson was for P.) Both have promised to follow libertarian principles. I don't believe Weld's promise yet. Johnson claims he chose Weld for his access to campaign funding sources, which is a practical reason. While I'd have preferred that he had chosen a real libertarian, the practical challenge of getting enough public exposure (and more than 15% in polls) to get into the debates (when the process is controlled by the statist Demreps) may justify his choice. I hate this kind of compromise (or some think betrayal) , too.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 4 months ago
    Does this kind of crap never end?
    Politicians fight each other over the drop of a hat. Instead, they should figure out ways to fight our enemies. We should only elect persons who fight tooth and nail to NOT be elected. Only those who don't want to run for office should be voted on. If they choose to take office -- good. If not, no loss. No More Politicians! Ever!
    I guess I'm just frustrated. How about you-all?
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 4 months ago
    Rigid ideology is a stumbling block when attempting to achieve significant goals. Johnson was a successful governor because he made compromises rather than trying to shove "pure" libertarian ideas down people's throats. Looks like there are as many blind purists in the Libertarian ranks as in the two big parties. Disappointing.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago
      Its a good thing to have the purists AND the pragmatists. No group of people who gather for political reasons will always agree. The purists teach the pragmatists. The pragmatists teach the purists. Many learn from the experience. This is not the case with the statists, based on the results (and the continued insane actions.)
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago
      I'm disappointed with all but one of the front running candidates, and that cackling crook only disgusts me to the core.
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      • Posted by $ Suzanne43 9 years, 4 months ago
        Yeah, and who wants The Cackler nominating Supreme Court justices.
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago
          Once the cackling Teflon Titwillow (aka the evilly laughing untouchable bad egg) is done stacking the Supreme Court with Constitution despising libtards, Congress may as well go home.
          The USA will be totally gone and so will freedom..
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          • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago
            Under the constitution the supreme court doesn't have the power it wields. For the first 100 years of the country, states ignored anything the supreme court said if they didn't agree with it. Bags of hot air, esq.
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            • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago
              With libtards in the Supreme Court making up laws out of thin air, the State of Alabama may become my only hope of remaining free of all that PC stupidity and of hanging on to my guns.
              Watching the State Troopers hold off the DOJ gun grabbers would be quite the sight.
              But somehow I don't think it will turn out that way.
              Ding-dong! Knock-knock-knock! Hello, the house! Anyone home?
              We're from the federal government and we're here to help you!
              Oh, we've got all sides of the house covered so don't even think about it!
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              • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago
                Sounds like MOVE. Everyone on the block is endangered (by the fedcops, not you.)
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                • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago
                  Don't know what you're trying to say, but it seems to me neighbors need to take a stand.
                  Now that might happen.
                  Found out when a tornado came through that there are only five ways in and out where I live.
                  Of course, helicopters beat blockades.
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                  • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago
                    Was referring to MOVE, and the way that the mayor of Philadelphia and police burned down 10 blocks of housing by dropping C4 and gasoline on the MOVE house to get them to come out to be arrested (in 1985.)
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                    • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 4 months ago
                      I don't recall any of this~
                      http://abcnews.go.com/Archives/video/...

                      1985 was my fourth year at a new prison near Birmingham that was really rough and tumble
                      My off-hours was rock music on the radio and a steamy romance. I chilled out with HBO and MTV when MTV really was MTV. I rarely looked at local TV at all. News? I didn't care as long as I got off the clock in one piece. I had personal headlines to deal with.
                      It was during the 90s when I went to the first shift to help with raising kids and discovered Rush Limbaugh and other talking head spin-offs.
                      It was in the middle of that decade when shift bosses liked me on the back gate tower that almost everyone was afraid to work due to being job scared of screwing something up.
                      I came to like that tower just fine.
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  • Posted by jimsavage 9 years, 4 months ago
    I have voted for both Weld and Johnson in the past and am pleased that Gov Weld has joined this effort. He was a good governor in a very liberal state- while I did not agree with his social positions at times, he was libertarian at it. But he did help sell the small govt philosophy. Doubt if I will vote libertarian if it is a close election between Trump and Clinton but since she will probably carry MA, there is no reason to bote Trump rather than libertarian.
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  • Posted by RobertFl 9 years, 4 months ago
    Of the all the VP choices, Weld is the one that has a proven voting record, is recognized, and can bring in the money needed to at least wage a good fight.
    LP's keeps losing because they keep putting up freak shows, people that have no name recognition, a 35 y.o. candidate that talks in bumper stickers and presents himself as full of shine-ola, then there's a stoned Spicoli McAffee (what is an empty bong, other than an opportunity to fill it up again).
    Johnson/Weld is the best chance LP has to truly become a viable national party.
    As long as Weld doesn't come out as an alcoholic the ticket has a chance.
    Johnson better get moving. His own website doesn't say anything about Weld yet.
    If LP doesn't make a good show this year, the party is done.
    Just turn it over to Vermin Supreme.
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  • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 9 years, 4 months ago
    Makes no difference. Weld is not even close to Libertarian.

    His view on gun control alone makes him a Democrat and more suitable to be Hillary's VP.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 4 months ago
      Makes no difference if they don't get elected.
      Makes no difference if they can't raise enough money to get into the debates and introduce libertarian ideals to more people.
      I agree with you on Weld's liberty credentials (if it walks like a statist and talks like a statist), but I can also understand why 52% of the delegates at the convention are taking a chance on the Johnson-Weld ticket.
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      • Posted by Hot_Black_Desiato 9 years, 4 months ago
        Because they want to say .... I TOLD YOU SO!!! See Trump did not win, and it is all Trump's fault Hillary won.

        They are willing to blow out their own brains to try and prove a point using faulty logic.
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