Some will applaud Netanyahu's statement -- might you?
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The term "carpet bombing" just popped into old dino's head. Now I'm thinking bringing back napalm may not be a bad idea.
Now I don't suggest going to war for loot and plunder, i.e., oil. We'd be no better than they if we did that. But I'm not sure I want to sit around and give them time to develop, or steal, an intercontinental ballistic missile with Multiple Independently-targetable Re-entry Vehicles riding in its tip.
your argument about letting them develop new weapons is to be taken seriously. However, I wonder just how much these statist societies could really develop. Russia is being kept alive by the western countries buying energy from it. China by the stuff the world buys from them. etc
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Comment from http://fee.org:
"Free of the authoritarianism that prevailed in Europe’s Dark Ages, Muslims advanced the sciences and applied new technologies. They developed the vital mathematical concepts of zero and spherical trigonometry, and put them to work in architecture and navigation. While Europeans were blaming disease on demons, the Muslims of the tenth century, notes Lane, “were using the entire American medical pharmacopeia of today.” Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad documents the fact that ninth-century Baghdad had 60 drugstores. No Food and Drug Administration stood in the way of medical progress. Surgeons unlicensed by any government performed effective operations with local anesthesia."
Did the West fall into a Dark Age? Yes. But the Byzantine Empire lived on. The Baghdad Caliphate looted the technology of the Byzantine Empire--and, to a lesser extent, the Jews. And when they erased the Byzantine Empire, they had nowhere else to loot from. And, of course, they failed in their bid to conquer the West. Charles "The Hammer" Martel kept them out of France, and then Ferdinand and Isabella, before they would finance an Italian seafarer named Christopher Colon, kicked them out of Spain.
I am not an apologist for modern Islam; I have no affinity for it, but in the past there is evidence that Islam was not the dictaorship of evil that we are schooled that it is today.
last year, besides still pursuing the emptying of Gitmo
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This is why they kill other Muslims. The so-called "passive" Muslims are NOT practicing Islam as it is written. they are backsliding Muslims. I am not speaking from a position of hate but of fact, not of opinion but as one who has read the Qur'an and its Surahs.
And before you compare Christianity to Islam, and the Old Testament to the New Testament, there is NOTHING in the New Testament that tells its followers to go out and kill non-Christians. But to preach and proselytize, and God will sort out good from bad in his time, and his followers will not have to do anything.
To the contrary The Qur'an throughout preaches as these verses do.
Terry Kamps Jr. "Educate The World About The True Intent of Islam by Reading The Koran Day”, see these Koran Quotes Koran
Koran Surahs:
Koran 2:191 “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.”
Koran 3:28 “Moslems must not take the infidels as friends.”
Koran 3:85 “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.”
Koran 5:33 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam.”
Koran 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.”
Koran 8:60 “Moslems must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.”
Koran 8:65 “The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Moslems to fight them.”
Koran 9:5 “When opportunity arises kill the infidels wherever you catch them.”
Koran 9:29 “Fight those people of the Book (Jews and Christians) who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, do not refrain from what has been prohibited by Allah and His Rasool and do not embrace the religion of truth (Islam), until they pay the Halal Certification Tax (protection tax or jizya) with their own hands and feel themselves subdued.”
Koran 9:30 “The Jews and Christians are perverts; fight them.”
Koran 9:123 “Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.”
Koran 22:19 “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.”
Again this is not hate, but showing that the "radicals" are actually just practicing their religion as written.
Sun Tsu: "Know your enemy and know yourself and you will be victorious."
People who do not recognize reality will never win, because they do not understand the mindset of the enemy.
Not many people are actually aware of that nor willing to actually use the original hebrew.
Hebrew after that Greek Classical, Latin and the main root languages which make up English - Germanic, Latin, and several others.
One of my Uncles a retired Dentist and Missionary did a study and determined he was shocked the different books stayed as intact in meaning as they seem to have done even when watered down with the 'missing books which are not missing' but watered down more so by the development of English as the worlds major sponge language along with it's companion loss of purity in what little exactness it did have.
I prescribe the same treatment for any brand of fly and give them zero excuse be they secular or religious or whatever and do not excuse in the present the actions of the past. The past is not my responsibility. The present is my responsibility.
Should they wish to slaughter each other no problem but I would move to remove those not of a lemming religion that find themselves in their way.
Immigrants from Islam? When their are any number of non islamics being denied sanctuary? You got to be kidding me. Allow the importation of flies to my picnic when their human beings who should be sitting at my table? Physician heal thyself.
This administration has a lot to answer for and they are not invited to my picnic nor are their pestilent friends.
My prescription is solve the problem at home and swat our own flies. Religious or Secular.
And while we're at it get rid of the draft laws. They are in place precisely to assist our own flies.
The ante to counter that is 24 plus as cannon fodder and not in the GD pentagon.
For those who have gone through this before I apologize for having to swat a few flies it's an ongoing operation. If you got a bit lost the genesis is in the discussion on capital punishment. One does not execute expecting change. One executes to remove a serious enough threat to society that is prone to continue being a threat or shown to have a predilection or penchant for such activity. One does not excuse them nor try to retrain, etc etc etc.nor bother with caging them or even remove some physical characteristic such as by spraying although that does work where population control of flies is concerned. One simply decides that society having decided flies are worthy of execution for the crime of bothering picnics and other antisocial behavior to swat them.
I don't care about flies in Afghanistan or Syria. But I do feel compassion for humans being likewise bothered and would spend the time and money to secure for them a fly free picnic and disease free safe spot somewhere in the world more hospitable with a good supply of Black Flag or H24. I'm not so sure the USA is a safe spot these days what with it's heavily overtaxed entry fee and not much to offer these days in exchange.
As for the rest I and I wager you cannot recall the name of the last fly I executed at the behest of social convention and my own good common sense. Nor could I imagine stopping to let that bit of information or lack thereof become a concern.
The Bahai's, Christians, Druze, and others in Syria for example being denied entry to sanctuary (USA) while flies (Islamics) are being allowed in and not vetted properly goes beyond the pale.Include any other beleaguered category religious or secular except those who are other forms of flies. National or International in their socialist fly suits. Who gets in? The flies the picknickers are denied entry and left to an Islamic slaughter house.
Whose worse? Islamics or those that support them Why here's a group of the latter ...running for office again.
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One of the problems with the LGBT crowd is certain flamers making fools of themselves in gay pride parades and other venues. Personally, when I see such antics, I don't feel that a person such as that should have a gun. They might treat it like a toy.
Its built into islam to kill the non-believers, and UNTIL muslims disavow this tenet of their religion, I really dont see a big difference between any of them intellectually.
Islamists by definition do not keep quiet. The very word means believing that a literal interpretation of religion should be the basis for everyone's life and gov't. That's a radical claim. So radical Islam is the same thing as Islamism.
I don't think there is an Islamist Bible. Sometimes I think a Pope-like figure (a Caliph?) would force Isalmists to admit they're not following Islam, but I think what they admit doesn't matter. I think they'll fail under the weight of their own bad ideas.
seventh century, it seems to me. . the only defense
would appear to be stronger might in the interval
before rationality sets in. . like the patriot missile
system or the shotgun next to your bed, peace through
strength makes sense. . so, we need to do some
serious defensive force invention -- especially for
our citizens abroad. . and our allies. . like israel. -- j
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I hear what you're saying, but I don't think displays of force and new weapons are necessary. Shotguns and handguns are mature technologies and good things to have handy in any situation.
People generally don't risk their lives to get into a seventh-century world. Medieval life sucks. So I don't see extremists as a huge complicated problem.
their own bad ideas" ... soon! -- j
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I don't really imagine extremists coaching you, but if they want to stay in charge and the basis of their authority is obstructing Enlightenment values, this is the exact line of crap they should use. It's transparent manipulation, but it probably seems like serious information to someone educated mostly in a non-secular madrasa.
Yes.I passionately believe that.
I am tired of hearing politicians talk about their empathy for victims of crime while making it impossible for individuals to defend themselves against criminals.
I am tired of hearing politicians use criminal acts to excuse invasion of countries and war crimes on innocent civilians.
Netanyahu's remarks are politically motivated.
Some are valid, but giving more power to the state is not the answer.
Motivated as a description of his remarks are open- ended and suggests a negative connotation.
I also didn't take away any loss of freedom from his remarks. Should he have commented? I would say yes. Has his country been under constant attack from radical Islam? Yes. Should Israel exist in former British Palestine? ask the Rothschilds
The worst evil scum in the history of the world.
The loss of freedom comes when laws are passed here that take away our constitutional rights in order to wage undeclared war on the middle east (and elsewhere) mostly peaceful Muslim population which coincidentally was the purpose of Netanyahu's comments.
We have seen it many times before. Whipping up public support for unforgivable acts of war by governments who are supposed to be peaceful..
Its politics. War is waged instead of pursuing more effective solutions. Our liberty is destroyed and the productive middle class are converted to serfs while fortunes are made from war.
Worst evil scum in the history of the world.
They don't need Netanyahu to prompt them.
In fact my take is Obama hates Isreal he hates their productivity and as we know from his stand point
all success is credited to someone else not the achiever.
I would think he Benjamin N was ineffective as a leader if he didn't want support for his nation.
We have spent the last 7+ years shunning our allies.
During Netanyahu's comments I did not get the sense that he was doing anything but describing Islamic radicalism and their hate of all that is not them. Something our commander in chief refuses to do.
Ending the war is not the goal of the statists, so they will not do what is needed.
The only difference, sometimes, is enemies domestic and enemies foreign began their criminal careers in different segments of the world with a different out look than the rest of us AND are treated in two different ways. As bona fide citizens and as bona fide foreigners is the first instance of differences. The second instance is wearing a uniform of a recognized foreign power or not.
Wearing a uniform such as gang banger clothes burkas does not impart any special treatment it is the bona fide membership and allegiance to the recognized foreign power AND the uniform which allows possible treatment under certain conventions and rules of warfare and the lack of such membership regardless of apparel that requires treatment in a different legal manner. Cartel or mafia 'soldiers' for example. Weathermen such as Ayers is another.
Clear and present dangers such as the Jihadists, the cartel dopers, internal traitors, and violators of the Constitution may be able to trade on their special status and often do. A professorship at a university or as an elected official are two examples,
Introducing or seeking to introduce a Weapon of Mass Destruction such as...heroin - the act and the intent - can be a civil crime regardless of citizen status or an international crime the act of a uniformed employee of a recognized foreign government.
US military are subjected to intensive training in Geneva Convention, Laws of Land Warfare, Status of Forces Agreements, Rules of Engagement and other training. Then find out some are wink and grin and disregard laws. The laws on human traffic one clear and blatant example.The behind the scenes training given by dedicated officers, non-commissioned is which can and should be ignored (some), which cannot be ignored (some), to what extent our country will back it's troops in given situations if participating comes to light (no extent.)
The junior enlisted and lower ranks of officers, non-commission and commissioned can expect to be abandoned. The senior grades swept under a rug. Better than most we are not perfect. A recent movie detailed on instance of that which is not uncommon. An instance all too familiar to among others police officers find themselves. The answer is protect each other because the senior people and the government and the people do NOT care.
Are there extenuating circumstances? Certainly. As an uneducated semi literate in the home county language but fluent in Nahuatl seeking a better condition in life and one whose sole concern is their family I might look upon them more favorably than a soldier but both are members of an invasion force. Even though both are often coerced.
But at the same time not look favorably on members of our own government who aid and abet that invasion or transport of weaons of mass destruction.
Whose more the criminal? The indio from Yucatan or the immigration official and justice department official who routinely put both of the offenders back on the street? Or the senior officials who set that policy? Or the citizens that elect those senior officials?
I submit that those at senior levels who sanction or demand certain actions are just as guilty as the cartel, the jihad, the home grown terrorist including the street corner banger as the actual doer. I care not that their criminal act was misprision or 'under color of office.' Such as the former and present Attorney Generals and especially those who act perform these acts in a racist, sexist, or bigoted manner.
Are neophytes such as Trump going to grant blanket amnesty and pardons for those that carry out their popular and in demand orders? Perhaps the Donald will do a Obeyme tap dance and excuse all participants in some action deemed necessary. if we expect citizens to back executive actions we should be willing to support them in that expectation and not turn progressive when the NY Times and Washington Post start the inevitable witch hunt.
Think about it;. Huffington isn't after Bush she's after you. To her it's a chance to retrain your thinking and weaken your resolve. She doesn't care the hue and cry about WMD in Iraq was specious she only cares to destroy those who are expected, at a critical moment, to look the other way.
Think about it.
on the individual, the producer, the innovator, the protectors ,the true capitalists.
I ask you this. How can this not be a conspiracy?
Is all of this madness just happenstance, just a coincidence ( all of these groups working in concert to eliminate freedom)?
The former Secretary of Treasury from Goldman Sachs not only engineered the Mexican Tesorobono bailout by raiding Railroad Retirement Funds and Social Security funds he did so full well knowing behind his blind trust fund managers knew about his connection with Goldman Sachs as a still paid employ, as a stock holder, and 'Goldman Sachs major position in the Mexican funds collapse. They basically refused to pay since the previous leaders had stolen all the funds. The sick part this bailout was done openly in full view of an uncaring media and uncaring public. The dude made millions at taxpayer expense.His personal wealth and thast of GS made millions and multi millions.
This latest scam was very patrotic thinking of three corner or tricorn hats. One corner was Senator Dodds, Rep. Francks and others and the US Appointed managers of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. All millionaires and unlike Wrangel paid their taxes and went on with life happy. The third corner leaving housing bubble scams behind was/is agricorps/powercorps and the ethanol scam. with some auto industry in their reaping the lions share of benefits. the third corner was banking as big big banks got rid of seemingly hundreds of very small banks thorugh government edict changes in their retired operting procedures.
Conspiracy? Only in that it was the largest theft of taxpayer funds ever engineered and did not included military production for once. Conspiracy.? It was right out in the open and cast as patriotic.
Conspiracy? Hillary made hay while the sun shined brightly her opponent Donny Boy the same using the rules available to big business while his employees especially in the trades unions paid through the nose in devalued money.
Truman recognized Israel, but then provided no aid in their desperate struggle to survive in the first days of their nation's existence. The only American President to actually provide real aid in time of need to Israel was Nixon. We've sold aircraft to Israel, but only when we were providing the same support to their enemies (Saudi Arabia).
Taken at face value, this is exactly what we need to do to eliminate the fear this threat feeds on as its lifeblood. This by the actions of people, not governments.
He is also right that its "infidels" who are the target of islam, not just jews or gay people.
I dont know what to think about the motivation behind his statements. I always wonder about politicans' agendas though.
Modern hatred toward Jews appears to me to be nothing more than envy of their success at capitalism.
The so-called Palestinian point of view is only possible for someone who doesn't know history or religion at all. Arabs have been trying to "ethnically cleanse" the countries they occupy (and any others they can conquer) since Islam was founded in the 7th Century. The Crusades were defensive in nature. It was Muslims, not Communists, who invented the idea that "peace is defined as the condition that will exist after we own the world", and Islam encourages them to lie to, cheat, and murder non-Muslims whenever expedient. Islam is not so much a religion as a political movement of and for total barbarians, and it and its proclaimed followers deserve zero respect. Indeed, they will probably force their opponents to exterminate them before there can ever be peace in the Middle East.
I have sat in class with Muslim men in college, the only woman. Why, because they discriminate against women and will not share classes with them. , They don't allow them to drive, require them to cover their heads, abuse them with no reprisal. If they can treat family like this, then their acts toward the LGBT community are just part of their game. Netanyaho understands and speaks out against what our president will never speak out against.
The "unjustly" part is critical. Few kill unjustly. The Jewish Bible and Christian Bible urges death for homosexuals. So does the Koran. To those who "go by the book" such killings are just. While I agree with Bibi here, he misses that his own book of faith demands he should kill gays. To not do so is to go against the holy book. Therein lies the problem with those who claim to follow their holy books, they cannot follow them 100% because virtually all people realize these books are seriously flawed, so they pick and choose what to read and believe.
Take a look at these short videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y807I...
and Pastor Kevin Swanson
November 6, 2015
National Religious Liberties Conference, Des Moines, IA
Where Cruz was also a speaker.
Swanson called for murder for homosexuals, citing the Bible, Lev. 20:13 and suggested ways to killing them under the law. Here is a video of him doing so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgZU6...
Perhaps motivated to increase sympathy for Israel by identifying a common enemy.
On the other hand, the media makes the death of 50 people by a crazy person into a tragedy more present in people's minds than real issues, and worse causes people to be afraid, rather than angry. If we behaved with the simple wisdom of social animals, acts like this would be resolved by dismemberment 20 minutes before the police arrived...e.g. the train car in France. Rather we behave like lemmings, die like lemmings and support the strategy of our enemies with our fear.
The actions of the media whip people into a fear frenzy, akin to fear of flying, when one's chances of dying this way is very low. Scared people make poor, subjective decisions, like trying to take away the freedoms of others, however irrelevant it is to the fear.
My priorities are clear and objective. The death of 50 people my a madman does not prompt me to immediate action other than some sadness anger and a renewed interest in an LtC (which I will obtain when I get to NH), because it is statistically trivial, and no one has proposed a reasonable action remotely capable of controlling the event.
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
My set of priorities? For the place I live:
My family and children
Freedom
Correcting the deficit
Limiting government powers
Reinvigorating industry and the economy
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Keeping Hillary out of power
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Maintaining military strength
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Continuing to play soccer
Having a fast car
...x10
doing something about this event
Where does action in this "issue" show up in your priorities, and what do you plan to do about it?
The city cheered and scattered to the four winds and spread the word. From now on it's PC for political crap.
But how will we tell it from any other form of speech?
Simple it's a three part dis harmony be the happening of boring bass runs, even more boring drum licks and straight up fesces but use the four letter version.
OK runs, licks and frijoles.
Whcih makes iperfect sense to Tejanos.
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