Next Atlas Shrugged movie, "Dr. Gruber's Nightmare," a horror film?

You grok rightly.

The question is will those who are supposedly getting free medical care going to revolt if the whole system is repealed? which it should be immediately. There will be a day in time when there will no longer be doctors to give them service and then what will the government tell these unfortunates who are loots as well.

Thanks for your input CircuitGuy .May your good health carry you and your family to a great future.
Have a nice weekend!

Thank you for your reply O.A. Please enjoy the weekend.

I thank you for your input.

"I would just like to be able to barter with my Doctor, Dentist and such."
I usually can deal with them reasonably. The thing is their front-line people and even their business offices just mindlessly follow rules.

Our pediatrician's clinic stopped taking our insurance a few years back. We didn't care b/c we never hit the deductible. The business office told us we couldn't use the clinic anymore b/c they didn't "take our insurance". We explained we have two kids, happily make referrals to them, and just wanted a similar pricing to what we'd been getting. They were baffled. The doctor happened to come by. She stifled the urge to say, "they want to pay in cash and send us referrals, and you're telling them to go away!?"

We also had another experience where a specialist told us there were some approaches not covered by insurance, but we could look at XYZ. We asked about the other approaches; I can't remember, but it was something like a low-allergen blanket or something, but it was $100. We kind of had to politely tell him to forget about insurance, think medically, and then we'll evaluate pricing. Apparently so many people just turn off their brains in this area and let a company handle it.

I found over the last obobo years that if I pay cash for my yearly health exam that it's costs me less than my "Insured Co-pay" used to cost me pre-obobo.

:) we should get together again before another year goes by.

Hello AJAshinoff,
Many would say it was the plan all along... Difficult to argue the contrary.
Good to hear from you. Happy labor day!
O.A.

Few in Congress may be held blameless, but it is true that the legislation was passed without a single Republican vote. It might be their only laudable accomplishment... ;-)

True, but health care is almost always tied to who pays..which is why O and his D's hand to install ocare. With Ocare they can manipulate many aspects of people lives - what is eaten, what you do, what you own, etc...

Hello O.A.
It will eventually end up single payer...the politicians are more interested in their careers than scrubbing the plate clean to prepare for the next meal. Who's in charge no longer matters.

Sorry, alternatives were offered (health saving plan, allowing all insurance carriers to sell in all 50 states (driving down the cost), etc..) but health was never the reason behind the push. I dislike RINOs immensely (we have mccain) but the reason we have this unconstitutional law is firmly on every lock-step marching, you need to pass the bill to know whats in it,democrat and no one else.

The complicity from the RINO's is that the problem (emergency rooms at hospital filled and closed in metro areas because uninsured went their for any ailment) this and other problems wasn't being addressed .The RINO's offered no alternative or explanation of its hazards and certainly since passage have been impotent to repealing it.

The votes are entirely D and the scurrilous method of passing the legislation through the night unread was entirely the D as well. At that time recall that they, the D's, held the POTUS, the House and the Senate. The R's didn't have the numbers and did not vote for this. As the chart shows, not ONE R vote.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote...

So true OA . In my industry you would be sued and lose your right and license to sell if you sold like these liars did. I find the RINO's complicit as well.
With regards,
Dobrien

Good afternoon Gifford. I think the alternative of paying the ransome over the worthless insurance is appealing.
A client who's 33 year old daughter had a major surgery and she required a plastic surgeon as well as the internist. Insurance would not pay for the plastic surgeon she had a bill of $14950 from him.
My client wanted to help her pay and wanted to take money from his retirement acct. I strongly suggested she create a budget and set up a meeting with the business office telling them that she can pay them over the next dozen years based on her families budget or that they could pay in full a discounted payment . Much like an auto transaction they went back and forth and settled on $7000.00.

Thanks AJAshinoff,
I unfortunately disagree that it was entirely orchestrated by the DNC. The weak effort by the RINO's to defeat Obmer and defend the individual's right
Was and continues to be pathetic. Sadly this two-step dance is well choreographed.

Mine is not cancelling, but I have been notified to expect rate hikes. O'care is a catastrophe. But we are supposed to be happy we are finding our own policies disappearing or becoming unaffordable since so many more Americans are now insured at our expense. It was bait and switch from the get go. Of course anyone with any sense knew this the moment Pelosi said "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It." Right...