Hi. My name is... Robert Smith
Posted by Boborobdos 12 years ago to The Gulch: Introductions
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You also arrive at the mistaken conclusion that workers themselves have no power. Workers have as much power as their skills and training (and the market) allows and that power directly translates to earning potential and demand. There is a huge difference in earning power between a burger flipper and a doctor. The burger flipper has skills that will earn him/her about $8.50 in the market, while a doctor's skills will earn them 10x that much. Unions actually inhibit the free movement of labor and capital by artificially controlling the cost and mobility of labor - especially low-skilled labor.
Where the system doesn't work and people are being exploited, it isn't in a free market. Government rules and regulations and unions are the two biggest inhibitors of the free market and incur costs to everyone with their interference. Look at any example and you can ferret out the hand of government - either in reinforcing a monopoly or throwing up artificial barriers to the free flow of capital, goods, or services.
You give no credit for any degree of self determination to low skilled workers...they have to be 'protected', and coddled by some union boss (who probably plays golf at the same country club that the CEO plays at).
Your posted impression of the helplessness (and mindlessness) of workers is so antithetical to what Ayn Rand believes, that you can only be here to phish for argument.
You've met your goal...what next?
No business is exempt from OSHA guidelines.
You are living in the Grapes of Wrath era, and need to check a calendar.
I could be wrong, but it appears that you are quite narrow minded about accepting how others think. Is it truly your way or the highway?
Rob
Ideally a doctor who is rational is in it for the money and knows that doing the best job they can will make them more successful. So I would go for a doctor like that. Part of their success would depend on how well the patients felt about visits and told people they knew. Because ultimately we are free to go to a different doctor if we are unsatisfied. If the doctor loses one regular patient maybe they'll think nothing of it, but if they start losing a bunch they will have to figure out why and make corrections or risk going out of business.
I live in the real world. Not everyone has choices and the brain power to "make it happen."
I saw a comedian a few years ago with Parkinson's disease. She was shaking on the stage and said something along the lines of, "Sure I got choices... I wanna be a brain surgeon."
Why don't you want to accept the notion that this world isn't perfect and understand that there are different people in it?
Rob
All the assorted philosophies, ideas, and even the self help coaching don't take into account the individual circumstances of everyone so they can jump to your tune.
Rob
I agree with the statement from the Declaration of Independence. However this does not mean that people can do nothing and get everything they want or need. It means we are all free to do with our life what we will and it is up to us to do it. Nobody, including the government has the right to take my life, my freedom, or prevent my pursuit of happiness.
However things like Universal Health care do take away my freedoms at the very least. I do not want to fund the health care of "society". If I decide someone I know could use some help, and I have the means, I have the freedom of choice to help them. It's amazing how generous many people really are by choice, without the government forcing this upon them.
As in 'present' tense?
Your breaking story is over a year old, and proved to be union propaganda intended for people like yourself:
"Gregory F. Rayburn, a restructuring expert who took the helm at Hostess last month, said in an interview that the top four executives working under him had agreed to cut their annual salaries to one dollar until the company emerges from bankruptcy or Dec. 31, whichever comes first."
Fifteen months ago: http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012/04/09/ho...
Rob
And religion that has eternal damnation if you believe that.
Rob
It's like which bible do you want to believe? The one Fred Phelps believes in, or the one Bishop Spong believes in.
When people are bullied into low paying jobs, either by their own numbers or corporate greed, yes, I do think it's wrong.
Seems to me that you are saying corporations are entitled to maximize profits, but workers have to go along with what the employer wants.
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Trying to force the market into some false premise that they need to pay more because you feel sorry for someone is fallacy. The market will decide. If someone doesn't want to make $10 per hour flipping burgers then they will get some skills and knowledge and find other work that is more lucrative. If you want jobs like McDonald's to be the long-term types of jobs that people retire from someday then you are causing way more damage to those people than anything else would. Jobs like that should be a stepping stone to bigger better things. I know because I worked at McDonald's, Pizza Hut, a gopher for a welder, mowed lawns, a roofer, waited tables and did tech support for granny's in the 90s when they were getting, "on the super highway" of the Internet. I wouldn't trade any one of those jobs or that experience. It taught me so much that is invaluable to me now.
Unions are now a cancer, mostly because they are completely abused by the union management, example: Detroit. I have never once in my life worked for a union. My brother has and it nearly kills him every time the union decides to go on strike so he might see an additional $137 per year raise. It's absolutely not necessary in this day and age of travel capability making today's workforce massively mobile. I'd much rather be able to walk into my boss' office and explain that I have another offer somewhere else for $10,000 a year more and let him match or better it. It's the way the market should work. And better yet, start your own business, put in the blood, sweat and tears and build something of your own, along with your own wealth.
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