Trump is the GOP's Frankenstein

Posted by khalling 7 years, 6 months ago to Politics
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"I realize some of you have a more sanguine view of Trump compared to mine. And some of you have a far more sinister view of Trump.

But, whatever you think of the man, the constituency Trump represents is not deplorable. And, win or lose in 2016, they are convinced that there exists this nationalistic, protectionist, anti-immigration platform which will solve their problems."


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  • Posted by jetgraphics 7 years, 6 months ago
    Democracy is the problem. . .

    You were born to be sovereign, endowed with rights by God almighty, and no servant government was delegated power to trespass those rights - save by consent of the governed or in pursuit of justice on behalf of an injured party. Absent consent, all government is authorized to do is adjudicate disputes, prosecute criminals, and defend against enemies, foreign or domestic.
    Anything more is based on your consent and voluntary participation in their democracy, contracts with usurers, and by your voluntary participation in national socialism (socialist insecurity).

    No matter who is elected, nothing will change the path to destruction, caused by the criminals in power.
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree about ends and means, too. I just believe that Trump's unethical means will be a lot less unethical and dangerous than Hillary's, in particular in terms of trashing the Constitution. Trump's bypasses, if any, will pale in comparison to the number and extent of what Hillary will try to do.
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  • Posted by 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    well, like the govt takes from producers, Trump has a history of not paying the producers he hires, banking on his name (brand) alone. but I hear you about Supreme Court.
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  • Posted by USinc 7 years, 6 months ago
    It's time for a business man to run the government instead of the government running the business men! Maybe the mooching will stop. And don't forget the Supreme Court!
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  • Posted by MinorLiberator 7 years, 6 months ago
    Ok, I scanned all the comments, and didn't find the obvious:

    Quit insulting Frankenstein.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hitler got results. Stalin got results. Mao got results. Pol Pot got results. Obama got results.
    Yes, Hillary is a disgusting ugly unethical lying looter. If she were standing in the road and I accidentally hit her with my car, I might accidentally back up over her. Trump might be better, or might be a re-run of King George III.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Aphorisms only work if they illustrate a truth. I am steadfast in my position that while Trump is not nearly our best choice, he is better than Hillary who is a known quantity. I suppose Trump is a gamble, but like the man said, "If you don't play you can't win."
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I didn't say it was right or good. It is what it is. They are both bad, but Hillary is X10.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "a little Constitution bypass"
    We're currently experimenting with Constitutional bypass already. It is a dangerous experiment.
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  • Posted by wmiranda 7 years, 6 months ago
    I'm your case in point. Whatever happens at the elections, I will no longer be a conservative, libertarian, democrat, republican, probably not independent. Whatever Trump is, that's what I'll be (including the nasty names some of you have in your minds right now). If a Term Limits party forms, that's what I'll be too. My only infidelity in my marriage is with America. I'm sick and tired of politics as usual.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Great, more who feel the ends justify the means, like the liberals. Trash the constitution, its just a GD piece of paper. You don't need those guns. The CIA, FBI, DHS, and F-troop will take care of you.
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    During Clinton's time in office my brother was talked into running for congress in CA by some of his Dem friends. As he got into it he came to a point where he thought that with just a little support from the local D's party boss he could actually win. Then reality - the local boss told him he was not supposed to win - that the seat he was running for was for the R's to win and they did not want him to actually win it. It would upset the balance they had agreed to. I tell this in support of your argument - there is only one party with two teams who divide the spoils.
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  • Posted by $ TomB666 7 years, 6 months ago
    I don't think Trump can "solve our problems" I just hope he can slow down the tempo of the coming destruction of our civil liberties. (That is about all Reagan managed.) I'm 73 and would like to die still a relatively free man. I think the younger people who elected Obummer and might elect Killary will pay the price for their lack of reasoned thought.
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  • Posted by Davidbergeron 7 years, 6 months ago
    I just received a survey from Team Trump, which had very libertarian leaning questions. That was encouraging.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 6 months ago
    Me dino is at one with the jolt that awakened Dr. Frankenstein's monster.
    Metaphorically speaking, the creature is composed with mistaken as dead body parts that the elites hoped to stay stifled.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Me dino monster nominates Washing DC as the Halloween Capital Of The Entire World!
    Trick or trash! With spiders in both!
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 7 years, 6 months ago
    Both Trump and Bernie Sanders are a result of a bottom-up populist movement, no credit to their respective parties. For at least two decades the people have been trying to tell their Federal representatives they don't like the way the country is being run, that they don't feel they're being heard, and that they aren't pleased with the elite they see taking over the country.

    The Tea Party was the first significant sign of this fomenting uprising, and even the establishment media had to acknowledge the root cause of its rise to unavoidable notice. You don't hear much about this group any more, because they put their faith in bumbling, flawed super-conservatives who made it easy for the establishment media propaganda machine to destroy them.

    Trump and Sanders independently recognized that there was a strong desire to return the citizenry to a degree of power. To do that, the elite in the political parties, and the wealthy in cahoots with them needed to be challenged, and taken down if possible.

    The tremendous effort has been made by both major political establishments and their toady media propaganda arm against both populist candidates, and they succeeded in stopping Sanders. Trump amazingly seems to be continuing to ride the populist wave, in spite of the efforts to stop him. If he's to be considered a monster, his creators are the pitchfork and torch waving masses, eager for a cleansing of the government cesspool.
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  • Posted by EdGoldstein 7 years, 6 months ago
    This article is written in ideological terms whose meanings have been distorted by the left and its media. Trump is neither a demagogue nor a Frankenstein of the GOP. That is the narrative of the establishment. Since 2010 a revolt against the state narrative has been growing. It was called the Tea Party and has been fought by both the Democrats and Republicans. The Republican establishment had intended to end the revolt in 2016 by spiting the conservative base between multiple candidates, giving Jeb the nomination. When Trump entered he voiced the principals and goals the Tea Party he re energized the Tea Party.

    What became obvious in 2016 is that the idea that there are two opposing parties is a fictional narrative. There is a single establishment running the country that pretends to represent two opposing ideologies as a means of controlling the population, There is never an effective opposition because there is never any real opposition. The oligarchs agree among themselves and then do it to the population. This might not be bad if the oligarchs were as smart as they think they are. Unfortunately it is clear from their decisions that they have created a kakistocracy of the rule by the most inept and corrupt.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 7 years, 6 months ago
    Trump's main constituency is a group who has been waiting to hear the words he is saying for the past 20 years. They are patriotic Americans who feel they are losing their country and they want to fight back even if it means a little Constitution bypass.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 7 years, 6 months ago
    Oh, yeah?

    I am a member of the Trump constituency.

    Say what you will about him, but he produces. Hillary Clinton has produced nothing, and destroyed much. In fact she cannot even guarantee a result for those who bribe her; witness the Keystone XL Pipeline affair.

    I'll take the man who gets results, over the man (or woman) who doesn't.
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  • Posted by wiggys 7 years, 6 months ago
    I find it difficult to see trump giving a state of the union address or otherwise communicating with congressman who he probably finds deplorable. So when he is elected he will shortly there after resign so pence can assume or be elevated to the presidency since he can communicate with the congressman and he may very well make a good president.
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