It's ok to ask if a person supported Hillary tho. Pretty similar to viewing people through those glasses !!

Yes... I recall seeing that movie ~30 years ago. Do you think they could make ... and market a film like that today? I doubt it ... just too damn close to the truth.

You going soft?

Well the ramifications of our earthquakes in nz have swept your politics off my mind
Incredible geological change
Deep economic effects to come.

Look at yutube. Start with 'kaikoura'

De ja vu for those of us in the thick of 2010-11 quakes.
Like many gulchers i am a sensible prepper: today bought 2 more storage bins and more freez dri packets.
It was a 7.8 mag quake so, logical to expect a high 6 or more in coming weeks, anywhere.
Great spirit among kiwis as you would expect. The Maori people incredible in their generosity of taking hundreds of people into their maraes, and feeding them and caring. They are so well organised for big numbers at short notice
And you khalling? Whats Kira up to?
Ours just finished her 3rd of 5 uni years and goes to Japan tomorrow for fortnight. Then works all summer.

The music industry is riff with whistleblowers that discuss the satanic Illuminatti cult behavior that is ritualistic and Deviant . Michael Jackson and Prince and Dylan on 60mins interview. The symbolism is as common as leaves on a tree when you see any Pop, Rap, Hip Hop artist .All the Kakistocracy flash the cornuto.
A normal rational person would never even consider the sick behavior these people relish.
That doesn't mean it doesn't exist

Why do you want to know? Don't you already know us in excruciating detail from years of our palavering here?

I adore your comments. let's see how the conversation goes, dear Thoritsu

I am thinking we need a plan to:
1. Educate people to understand the value of liberty, individualism and objectivism; or
2. develop a real Gulch

I love the camaraderie, but that is just a one night stand. I love the stoic objectivism, but that is a wet dream. How do we get this off the ground?

hey Zero. nice to hear from you. would like to hear from you more!

I don't know you. thanks for commenting. do it more

Zenphamy - Well said!! I grew up at a time when teenagers put on big people clothes and acted grown up by the time they were driving. I have watched the erosion, and this election (with all the lies about Trump and the tears and rage of the snowflakes) has lifted my spirits: we are again moving back toward freedom under the Constitution because most of America has woken up. I noted to a friend that the claim that a Republican can't be entrusted with the nuclear button goes back to 1964 - it is part of the Democrat mantra (and the only one who used it was a Democrat). A Republican not being 'bright enough' goes back to the 1952 campaign between Adali Stephenson and General of the Armies Dwight David Eisenhower. Adali was an academic and Ike only won the war in Europe by brilliantly using the contentious generals he had: Montgomery, De Gaul, Patton, etc. My friend does not pay as close attention to politics as I do and did not know the history of the Democrat mantras, but is paying more attention now and we have had conversations speaking to that awakening.

Now all we have to do is ask if they voted for Hillary or that green party lady or Bernie. That means they arent friends. They might not have voted at all, or voted for Johnson and thats OK. Voting for Trump puts them in an acceptable category too.

on the other hand, American citizens travel across the mexican border like they are real people and not criminals. I live in Mexico and the US border patrol is austic.

ooooo. meandering. I LOVE it!

I like that movie! It's called "They Live". Favorite line; when Roddy walks into a bank carrying a shotgun and says "I came here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum".

I'm thinking I always liked KH. That's pretty much it.
Kind of you to be concerned.

OBJ'ism doesn't talk about it much, but it's covered - kindness is a great virtue.

I was born into a lower middle class family. Half were born in Poland/Ukraine. They were all liberal. It wasn't until I was at the start of my teens that I began to question a world that made no sense to me. I read the Fountainhead at 14 and knew that somehow, Roark was the way people ought to be, but then I thought, he must be a fairy tale, because no one I knew could ever be like that, until ten years later, married with a young son, I read Atlas. There was no instant transformation. But little by little, the nameless something that seemed to encase me dropped away. I finally realized that I wasn't an alien but increasingly more human. And as my son's grew and we met Objectivists (My sons & me and the BW) I saw the effect being rational (to the extent I was able) did for my sons. They became the persons that I aspired to be. I must admit that I got a thrill when Barbara Branden, upon meeting my younger son proclaimed what a pleasure it was to meet a second generation Objectivist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-4zf...

Im thinking Ill have a cold one...and, I`m thinking that the decision to wait until the 9th to decide if I would buy additional ammo, or new pipes for the shovelhead was a good plan.

Ever read "Sarum" by Edward Rutherfurd?

After reading that, I felt that none of this will matter, 600 years from now...

You must not live in a border state with Mexico. I do! Obama has lifted the activity of the Border Patrol. They aren't permitted to their jobs. The influx of illegal aliens from Mexico and Central American countries has put Arizona jobs in jeopardy.This is a right to work state so there are many companies that hire illegal aliens and pay them under the table. So, trying to find a job for Az residents is difficult.

We do discuss Ayn Rand's philosophy not just Atlas Shrugged. Atlas Shrugged is her greatest work. So, by all means submit a post on it and the the members will comment/discuss it.

1.5 million individual Ayn Rands coming to a country all at once wouldn't have an effect on its culture?

Thinking about what? If about the election, too many issues; be specific.

I'm thinking I'm 65 and have learned that, in a world full of noise and chaos, I can only "tend my own garden."

melting pot except that if you let too much into the pot too quickly, your culture can change radically in ways you dont want. Check out germany with the 1.5 million muslims refugees. Their ideas are NOT even similar to western values. I think if they want to come to a place, it should be because THEY want to melt into the EXISTING culture in the recipient country; not that they want to change it