Global climate change
I have two questions about climate change: 1. What is the primary cause of climate change? 2. Who benefits by publishing faulty data?
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Pseudo Scientist and Gov't.
To answer the second part of the question it is important to understand the difference between climate science and climate politics. From the perspective of the scientist (real scientists) climate change is a phenomenon to be studied and understood. From the perspective of the politician it is a tool that can be used to increase political power. The scientist wants to understand it while the politician doesn't care if it is real or not. It is only important that it be accepted as a threat. As H. L. Menkin observed, "the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary."
Now humans may have a small effect on climate, but more likely in localized settings, not worldwide. Heat zones, loss of vegetation, particulate concentrations, and massive structures within cities could create a change in weather patterns both within and outside the city (more towards the direction of the prevailing winds). Hence more probability for severe storms. But once again, localized.
2) Those who benefit are: "Poor Countries"/ Dictators who through world regulations receive money from "Rich Countries" for whom are responsible for the "Changing Climate", so they can "Help" their people achieve what the "Rich Countries" have. Politicians who get kickbacks from organizations and people pushing the "Climate Change" initiative. Companies and Organizations that study and push the "Climate Change" initiative by deceiving or fear mongering the public into donations. Scientists and Academic Institutions who "Study" and report on "Climate Change", because they will get grant money or donations in order to keep studying and reporting on the "issue".
In fact there was an article I saw recently where the end of the last great ice age may have been helped along by an underwater CO2 release.
Also, CO2 seems to increase after global temperature rises, not causing the increase. Which then the question: What chemical is actually causing the rise in temperature? That very well may be Water Vapor, which holds more energy than does CO2. And, if we see that solar activity increases, melts the icecaps, creates more water to turn into water vapor, which in turn creates more warming. Much easier to explain and see the correlation too, than CO2.
But of course, my next question is: what events taking place either within the sun, or on its surface, is responsible for what appears to be random "sun storm" activity.?
Also, please find a video on Climate Change: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d09cJ...
Or the PowerPoint in the video: https://taep.memberclicks.net/assets/...
Why does the sun spot activity appear cyclic, yet the other two do not? At least, as yet?
(One seems to be a gradual decrease; the other a gradual increase.) Could there be a time lag interpretation?
I was questioning why the data shows those correlations: what is the scientific mechanism behind the observances?
Serious research is good. I'd like to know for myself, too. You do the research; I'll do the analysis, and ask the questions. Will that work?
Just kidding.
What other subject? I've always regretted not having had the time to learn more about geology. I like rocks.
You can't destroy their habitat, even though little old ladies might freeze to death in the winter.
Even knowing those lizards can survive, and even, if needed, self-relocate!
It will result in stagnation.
Another interesting anomaly, and maybe I can't remember my chemistry classes on this, but at higher temperatures, wouldn't you expect more water vapor in the atmosphere, not less?
That particular correlation in the graph seems to show an inverse relation.
As for the water vapor, yes you typically would see more with higher temperatures. However, water vapor will also turn into water droplets forming clouds. Thus, more clouds more cooling since the sun's radiation cannot reach the earth's surface to heat it up. So it would have a semi-inverse relationship to temperatures. This is especially true since water tends to hold its heat for longer periods of time as compared to rock.
Have you ever read "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton? He not only questioned anthropogenic global warming, but demonstrated that when humans attempt to "fix" what to them seems like a problem, they bring on a worse problem. That is, ecoterrorism will have a worsening effect on ecosystems.
I have not read anything by Michael Crichton, but I will definitely add it to my reading list. I think that Michael Crichton is in part correct on that assumption. The more we try to fix things, the worse they seem to get. The Earth knows how to take care of herself, we need to learn how to get out of the way and let her do it.
One great example of this are the Levies along the Mississippi river built by the US Army Core of Engineers. It may help those that live along the river not get flooded as often; however, because of them the land needs to be fertilized constantly, which in turn causes water contamination, and thus now there is a huge anoxic zone where fish cannot thrive off the coast of New Orleans. Or the fact that the levies have removed water from where it should be flowing, and that the coastline of Louisiana is shrinking. Etc., etc., etc.
For instance, I'm sure wind farms will interfere with normal wind patterns, and I'm not sure what that will do weather.
Or solar panel thermal farms. Those certainly are going to have some kind of effect on local climates. And thus wind patterns, as well.
"Environmentalists" want wind farms because of the CO2 aspect; however, they also complain that too many birds get killed each year by them.
Humans have the ability to better the world, but with a narrow viewpoint they will only mess things up worse. If they were to learn the greater cause and effects and started looking at the broad scope (not the narrow), we would all be much better off.
Still we need to use that same "judgment" as we now have very powerful technologies that can control a greater extent of ecological systems.
Who benefits? Authoritarians looking for excuses for control and scientists looking for excuses more more funding for their studies.
Hopefully, such PC funding will cease with Trump in office.
If so, such PC funding will resume should the scales of power tilt back to favor the globalist Jackass Party.
2) The Global kakistocracies, (governments by the worst and least qualified) and their crony connections all to lead a global collective to keep them in control and YOU unaware of what's really happening.
Not theory, it's observable and they have duplicated their faux theory and have repeated their ruse consistently over history.
The second point makes me wonder just how honest the climate scientists are. My reference point here is Dupont’s Freon. Just at the time that the patent on Freon was to expire it was ‘discovered’ that Freon was harming the environment by causing global warming and needed to be taken off the market. Lucky for us, Dupont just happened to have a new patent on R-134 refrigerant which would replace Freon and do less harm to the environment. Or maybe it was just a coincidence???
They can't even make the case with "Natural" aerosols.
As far as human contributions to climate...you are correct...highly unlikely...except, perhaps, Geoengineering...ie. cloud seeding, electromagnetic mitigation or what ever...Carried out by Government!...Oh...I forgot, they are not human...at least in the same sense as conscious life is.
Has government harmed our environment? Yes, but that has no effect upon weather trends over a long, never mind short, period of time.
Gore just got started with that early by how he now uses napkins and toilet paper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEBun...
Oh, well~can't win 'em all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-M...
Rappers appear obsessed with the cookie jar.
Me dino hates rap.
Further down the column I found a much better video~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi3Qo...
She might try "time out"--you sit there for awhile and think about not just what you did but why you did it. It would depend on the child's own ability to reason, and her concept of "cause and effect."
I'd tell her to think about it during a short time out.
She's way too young for anything more strict.
Next time she'll be more careful!!
My little girl, The Pink Panther!
The You Can't See Me International Lady Of Mystery!
Wait, now I got it~CAT WOMAN!
Now, "science," using the same concept, has jumped in as rent seekers.
Also, the Socialist/Communist mentality is not truly Socialist/Communist. Because not everyone is the same, instead you get more of a Feudal system, where the ultra rich control everything, and the rest are dirt poor.
Also, these same systems are the exact ones that have caused the greatest genocides/mass murders in history.
Socialism and Communism and all of their knock-offs are inherently unfair, and the idiotology destroys individuality and inhibits creativity.
However, all you have to do is read "1984" to see what they want. However, we'll get there through first "Atlas Shrugged", and then will be forced into "Ferinheight 451" and "A Brave New World" before we get to "1984". Unfortunately "Atlas Shrugged" is already a little too real.
I have said on another forum: "We conservatives will drive a stake through the dead, dark heart of the Leftist/Liberal/Feminists who have devoured the strength of the men of America, and destroyed the strength of American women.
You DO know that I am a woman, don't you? And I like being a woman---a real woman, not the namby pamby women of Liberalism.
And if I were PC I'd have written 'gender' in lieu of 'sex' so you can tell that I have no use for PC ;-)
Meanwhile, thanks for your insights.
I agree, PC is the very tool of the metaphorical devil.
I also don't consider myself a "Conservative" but instead an "Independent", though I have conservative ideologies. This has as much to do with my Science background as anything else. Show me the Facts, and I will change my opinion given those, and only those. I can never prove anything "Right or Correct," I can prove however that something is "Incorrect".
As far as proving something is incorrect, I assume you are talking in terms of logic. But even if you could prove something is incorrect, that doesn't mean the Leftist/Liberals can.
Facts are all around us, however (much as in this overall topic) people are no longer using Facts, but instead manipulating data to fit opinion/policy. I cannot say that "It is bright outside" while standing in an unlit cave and make it be true because the fact is I am neither outside nor is there any light. However, I can manipulate people into believing it by changing their thinking to fit my purposes. This is what is going on today. The manipulation of people to fit an ideology, and the fact that those manipulated either refuse to fact check or think logically is why we are in such dire times. The only way to make them "see the light" (if you will excuse the pun) is to keep presenting the facts and teaching them how to think logically. Most will refuse, because it's human nature not to change a "Belief", yet an idea can change when the facts disagree with it.
All these ideologies (Feminism, Socialism, Communism, etc.) have moved away from the realm of reality and are now Religions with their own Belief system. This is why those whom follow refuse and detest everything that does not fit. It is against their belief. Logic and reason can, and has, won throughout human history, it just takes a much longer time to do so.
Logic, reason and scientific method. And principles such as this:
Thinking that human nature can be anything you want it to be (the blank slate theory) is not only wrong, it is dangerous, and thus evil. "Proof" of such a principle is not yet available, though certain neurologists and psychologists might agree with it.
Stephen Pinker said in one of his books according to "...our best estimate of human nature..."
I simply told him his best estimate of human nature is badly flawed.
Yet, facts are still all around us and are found every day, in everything we do. Now, if you were to choose not to heed the facts presented, you will ultimately fail in some way, shape, or form.
Now, here is a philosophical question for you, and I am not a philosopher: "Are facts still facts if the data they are based on are incorrect, manipulated, or flawed?" Much of science completed throughout history has in some way been flawed but fit with the technology and understanding available, yet when technology or better data became available theories were changed. Yet, the theory "The sky is orange because the sun is yellow" is still false because we can test, and retest the facts which the technology that we have and know this to be false.
Facts are inherent in our world and universe. We as humans have the "privilege" to ignore them and come up with our own beliefs. Yet, the facts are still just that. It is making people realize that they are incorrect and having them accept it, that is what is not as easily changed.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke
Anyway, this is my stock answer: Science is proof without certainty; faith is certainty without proof.
As to man's flawed nature---man is imperfect only because, though he has a sense of the about-to-be, he in no way has 100% absolute certainty of what it will entail. Thus, risk-taking, use of abstraction to acquire new knowledge, and scientific method.
Of course there's much, much more, but that will do for day.
Thank you, this has been fun. I don't get a chance to chat with too many people that don't start going off on me or try to convert me to their religion when things don't go their way. Intellectual conversations can be rather stimulating.
And then He reminds me that humans have this peculiarity, that they know there is a future, and that very future could be threatening, yet they choose to live it anyway.
So what can I say?
If I felt a man were to treat me differently, in so far as my thinking and decision making abilities were concerned, I would be insulted., Not so for feminists. That is part of what disgusts me.
I have never expected anyone on this site, male or female, to treat me differently because I am a woman. All my chosen professions, and there were 3 or 4, have been those traditionally held by men. I competed with men on their terms, as they would have other men compete with them. I asked for no favors, simply because I was a woman. Not so for feminists, who claim to have been oppressed by men for centuries.
Let me warn them: when you became feminists, you gave up your power over men.
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Who benefits, the one world government crowd. Those who want to control people using environmental measures, as Hitler once did. Take a close look at Romania today, vs. several years ago, they have moved backward. No AC, rolling brown outs, making refrigeration impossible to maintain, and no place to part the evil cars, thus making them less mobile. Mobility is a threat to those who want complete control.
Yet no one ever mentions the fact that HAARP in Alaska and Puerto Rico, repeatedly heated the ionosphere and changed the jet stream, but then that was government action, not the people. It hs to be shown that people are causing it for people to be controlled.
The temperature of air is not just from the one part in 2500 of CO2 in those 2500 molecules and atoms of N2, O2, and Ar which do not absorb well in the infrared, but gain the energy indicated by their temperatures from transfer of energy from the ground by conduction or from transfer of rotational, translational, or vibrational energy from green house gases which occur in very small amounts other than water vapor. Some of the energy absorbed from the Sun by the N2, O2, and Ar is also in the microwave and radio energies in which they emit radiation.
As for faulty data, there has been a very large loss of personal integrity in the last fifty to 100 years. Today, due to political or social pressure of keeping a well paying job, one is nearly required produce reports which fit the required outcome asked for by the employer. For the climate change investigation of the IPCC it is required to fudge reality due to the purpose of the study proposed by them. The study was to find out how humans affected the climate and not to study climate in all ways. Some of the results which are contrary to human caused climate change are buried in foot notes and in references rather than being discussed in the main bodies of the reports, so just a small amount of dishonesty.
I was just now researching the Paleolithic Age and came across the Younger Dryas period, when apparently there was an abrupt climate change to a cooler period. Without getting into what consequences that would have had on the evolution of man, I wondered what could have caused it.
I was thinking of the "Allerod Oscillation, prior to the "Younger Dryas Impact. And may have contributed to the "Neolithic Revolution."