"I’ve tried to, but actually am unable to, watch MSNBC (and some of the others) just to see ...". NealS your entire narrative was worth the read, but that line really caught my eye because I started watching FOX this morning but switched over to CNN (Clinton News Network) because I wanted to see what the latest hooplah concerning Bill O'Reilly was all about and it seemed FOX wasn't giving. Anyway, when I switched I was immediately greeted with a video of protesters demanding Bill be fired carrying signs that seemed professionally made (who prints & assembles this stuff so fast?), but was too late to get any information because the story was immediately followed by 3 separate I-Hate-Trump narratives all within a 3 or 4 minutes. I switched back to FOX because nausea was setting in.

I still haven't seen any facts regarding Bill because I've been on the road and haven't seen much news.

I stopped subscribing to "Scientific American" a couple of decades ago for similar reasons. It made a "left turn" and the articles were becoming less scientific and more political. I thumb through it at the newsstand from time to time only to see it has gotten worse. Not getting my dollars, for sure.

I did the same with National Geographic when they had The gender revolution cover story followed up
With the next issue 7 things you need to know about climate change
1. The earth is warming. ----- false
2. It's because of us . --------- lie
3. We sure.. --------- Bullship
4.Ice is melting fast. --------false
5. Weather is getting intense.. ---yes due to GSM
6. Wildlife is already hurting. ---- And thriving
7.We can do something about it. ----- stop lying.
On there renewal offer I wrote.
"No renewal ! I am interested in geography not your propaganda"

Bill O'Reilly retiring? Right. He got fired for being a serial asshole. Even FOX got tired of him, which is saying something.

You guys are funny. You have a buffoon of a president who deserves to be treated like the buffoon he is and you attack the group who is satirizing him so brilliantly. SNL has gone after every politician since Ford yet when your clown is parodied, you get huffy. The press has treated Trump with kid gloves for some bizarre reason yet you still think he is being attacked. Remember Howard Dean? Out of the running for laughing too loudly. Remember Dan Quale? Couldn't spell potato and is attacked at every angle. Trump, probably illiterate, is a complete disgrace to the office of the Presidency yet he seems to be untouchable even after every insane thing he does. Bizarre.

SNL is going after him, and rightfully so, and doing the job the press should have been doing. If Clinton would have won, I would expect the same satirical punching, but I really doubt she would have been as easy a target as Trump.

Trump! I still can't believe Americans voted for this fool! You could have had Ted Cruz who would have been a much better choice if you ignore his weird religious crap. Instead, you picked a mediocre property developer who made his money with daddy's fortune, is famous for not paying his bills, who lies on a consistent basis, is a draft dodger, cheated on his wives, and has a creepy thing for his daughter. Even Pence, again if you ignore his insane religious mumbo-jumbo, would make a better president although that is not saying much.

It's not just you. Me and millions more, I'll bet. SNL has become totally cringeworthy. I can no longer stand to watch it and its shameful Trump portrayals, but the weekday late shows as well. If I feel like staying up late, I'll watch a movie or a NETFLIX series. The lovely thing about that is I can simply switch to another channel and I didn't waste $7 to $10.

It's not just you, and yes, it is unwatchable. It used to be that a TV show’s business charter was to present things that were enjoyable and addictive to as many people as possible without offending or trying to persuade people to do anything, it was strictly for enjoyment, to pull in advertisers, and other profitable purposes, or in the case of the news for factual and informative purposes for the majority of the population. Today SNL’s new charter must be to try to present politics in some extremely prejudiced, untruthful, and agenda that should persuade people to join them. They will only entertain and make the ignorant part of the population addicted to their show(s) and possibly get a whole new line of sponsors. What they don't understand is what they are actually doing is driving away about half of their viewers, their customers, in this to attempt to persuade people how to think and vote that agrees with their leaders (CEO, President) individual views. What they don't understand is that the majority of the people are smart enough not to believe, and more will be driven away as they learn the facts and the truth. Eventually they will destroy their original charter completely as more people catch on. I guess a shorter way of saying all that is, SNL used to be a fun show designed to draw high end advertisers and as many viewers as possible so they all can make a whole lot of money. And now it's just a one sided political show to try to persuade the ignorant to agree with their leaders political views, and hell with the other half of the population that isn’t impressed.

The media is doing the same thing. I’ve tried to, but actually am unable to, watch MSNBC (and some of the others) just to see what they are reporting. But I can’t watch them for over a few minutes without throwing up. Their reporting doesn’t report the news, the facts, it’s pure political one sided nonsense, there is absolutely no news there. It’s become almost strictly a “Hate Trump” movement. It will eventually become their demise. I can hardly wait to see MSNBC go broke and actually shut down. It’s also unfortunate that some of their advertisers (sponsors) are really great companies. I guess these sponsors feel that their products or services are needed by everyone, even the ignorant. Given a choice I still select products that are not sponsoring them if I have a choice. I occasionally get lists as an example, by Googling “MSNBC Sponsors 2017”, etc., that way I don’t have to watch them to find out who sponsors them.

FOX News may be one sided but at least it’s presents some of both, even lets the other side spew their garbage, and remains mostly “news” especially in the mornings. Notice the ratings between MSNBC (CNN & the others) and FOX Cable News, even the local FOX Stations. It says something, people seem to be steadily moving. I was surprised to hear that Mr. Top of the Cable News (Bill O’Reilly) is retiring, I guess he’s sold all of his books (little to do with any of the scandals) and can finally afford to retire. FOX’s viewership ratings may have a lot to do with the mid-term elections, and results may again surprise a lot of (ignorant) people. I think FOX really had a lot to do with the last general election too.

And finally (and thanks for letting me rant), for Sweden I see a parallel thing going on in Sweden with their media. The people are so PC, afraid of being called racists, that they will allow their country to be destroyed before they will admit or even listen to any truth about their immigration issues. Their government and media seem to be the ones that are most complicit in allowing the whole country to be taken over and changed in a way that they will never be able to recover from. The only real tools we have is our ability to vote, but we’ve got to use historical facts and current facts in order to make the right choices. https://www.prageru.com/stockholm-syn... We could have been next.

I always liked Laugh-In better. It hasn't aged as well as Monty Python, but still pretty good.

Well, NCIS decided to change the cast to attract a "different demographic" this year, and Criminal Minds et al are propaganda for the "justice" system, too.

You are so right! SNL has been unwatchable for years now. The talent is not that of the earlier players. Sometimes constraint leads to better humor, they have become just self indulgent and mean spirited,. Robin Williams was always best when in the care of a director who knew how to reign him in, and that was the case with the earlier SNL players. This bunch just thinks they ar so funny, when they are not. It is about them. It is like when a singer like Sinatra honored the writer of a song, and drew the best from it, vs the Mariah Carey bunch who think their own endless vocalizing is more important than the song. Alex Baldwin is a pit, his talent is minimal, shame too as his brothers do good work.

What is a SNL?
- a snail?
- - - who cares !

Ditto !!! BT

Do you remember, TW3, the forerunner to SNL that set the bar very high? It was my first introduction to sophisticated, adult political satire.
Unfortunately, the American version has not been made available to see anywhere. Apparently the Paley archives are keeping it to themselves. Here is a sample of the UK version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INxp9...

Here's an article reviewing the American version 50 years after broadcast:
http://splitsider.com/2012/05/that-wa...

I too have not tainted my TV screen with SNL in this milenium. For the most part my regular viewing stopped when Belushi, Aykroyd, et al were all gone from the show. Back in those days I worked selling stereo equipment for Pacific Stereo in Houston and most weekend nights and even a few weeknights were spent at parties with fellow employees enjoying one's favorite alcoholic beverage, the newest version of weed that had made it across the border, and the latest music because of course we all had screaming hifi's, only to stumble home to drag yourself into work the next day. Luckily we didn't open until 10 am.

But the one thing that always happened at those Saturday night parties, always; the music would stop, conversations would be reduced to whispers or stopped, people came out of the bedrooms and bathrooms, to watch SNL and when appropriate participate with the show when the landshark knocked or Roseanne Roseannadanna ended her spiel or someone ordered a cheeseburger.

And once the show was over the party tokk right up where it left off. I tried a few times in the late 80's and the 90's to watch SNL but as many have said, it's no longer funny and what they try to pass off as humor is forced and scripted far too tightly, the SNL players don't appear to be comfortable in their own skins. It's as if they are afraid they'll lose their jobs if they don't get laughs. If one looks back at any of the really funny TV comedy shows like Lucy, Danny Williams, Carol Burnett, Dick Van Dyke, Mork and Mindy, or Jackie Gleason you see actors that are confident, comfortable, and willing and able to go off script when opportunity arises and those results are often some of the best moments ever seen on TV. The original cast of SNL had that willingness although not always the ability for there were some skits that flopped. But far more succeeded because of the SNL cast's constant reckless quest for laughs. Maybe too much is expected because the originals set the bar so high, or maybe what was funny then isn't now because what is supposed to be funny now most certainly is not.

Unwatchable! So is Colbert -- what an ass he's become. I like to watch CBS News at 11:PM; just to I can change the channel as soon as he appears on the screen. I figure as long as my watching habits are being tracked, the loudest signal I can send is changing the channel!

I made the same choice for the same reasons when Belushi died (and the rest of that cast, Aykroyd, Curtin, Radner, etc. left). All of the more recent cast members are not only biased in favor of the bad guys, they're simply not funny.

I'm just sorry that Johnny Carson got the whole thing started by forbidding NBC to continue showing reruns of his shows on Saturday nights. If he hadn't, maybe Al Franken would still be unknown, as he deserves.

It's not just you SNL is unwatchable unless you are very Left leaning.

About five or so issues ago, Popular Science had two heroic looking full page photos of the Liar-In-Chief with an article about what he foresaw for our future. I immediately hurled the magazine into a trash can with disgust.
A couple of days ago Popular Science sent notice for me be to resubscribe for another year or two. On that slip I wrote down why I would not and put it in my mailbox on their dime yesterday.
I predict whoever reads it will accuse me of racism.

I'm haven't watch SNL for a very long time. I used to wait for it to be on because it was funny. I even got my news from the show's news skit. Gone are the days when Dan Aykroyd, Gilda Radner, Jane Curtin, and John Belushi starred. As Gilda Radner would say, "Never mind."

Agree. Looking at the shows we catch, it looks like the History channel, Science channel, Travel channel, Outdoor channel (gotta watch Gunny, and Joe Mantegna's Gun Stories) dominate. The only MSM shows we watch are the various NCIS and Criminal Minds. Netflix is our escape as well.

SNL was best when it was an equal opportunity offender against both sides of the political spectrum. Lately, it has become one note and trying to push some sort of narrative. Many of the skits are unfunny because there is no payoff to the setups. And it seems sooooo forced. They try to manufacture aspects of the people they are trying to satirized, but it doesn't work if it isn't genuine to the subject. I would definitely laugh at an Anti-SJW skit if it was done right, but they go at it in a stereotypical manner.

I'm no help, haven't watched it in years (or is it decades?)!

It's been unwatchable for decades.

It was interesting how he was portrayed in such a favorable manner.

I don't recall Mr. Peanut having that much of a brain.