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Early release of cons" will make our communities safer" Gov Brown

Posted by Dobrien 7 years ago to Legislation
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Ca. Governor Jerry Brown
"Proposition 57 will change this and make our communities safer.
Please join me in support of a smarter approach to public safety that will save taxpayers tens of millions of dollars. Vote Yes on Proposition 57."
The problem is, Proposition 57 didn’t tell voters what is considered a “non-violent” crime. According to a fact check put out by the Association of Deputy District Attorneys, non-violent in California can mean:
•Assault with a deadly weapon on a peace officer
•Battery with serious bodily injury
•Solicitation to commit murder
•Inflicting corporal injury on a child
•First degree burglary
•Raping an unconscious person
•Human trafficking involving a minor
•Participation in a street gang
•Exploding a destructive device w/ intent to cause injury (yes, setting off a bomb in a public place)
Read the entire fact check about Proposition 57 here. https://www.laadda.com/wp-content/upl... Make sure to check out the “Sentencing Examples” where it shows how a gang member who stabs someone is eligible for parole in 4 years and a serial rapist is available for parole in 8.

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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I have a couple of good conservative talk radio stations in my Birmingham area with a midday Rush followed by Hannity. Less listened to Mark Levin can be found on the other station. Don't care for the early morning Glenn Beck anymore.
    That all gets left behind on long car trips. My wide variety of music CDs can get old.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Dob, you turned me on to Graham Hancock, and I got his first 2 books from Downpour. He narrates them himself, so you actually almost have a lecture format. He's a good listen, and very convincing in his arguments. In fact, I saw that Brien Forester has released a discussion on the line of 45 degrees that goes around the world and was referred to as "Verochocas Trail" that Graham Hancock spoke of in Magicians. It seems some of them are beginning to come together.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It definitely beats what passes for radio today. There are more commercials than radio. The news is a slanted on radio as TV, so I gave up on anything but audiobooks, at least then I have the choice of what I am listening to.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm an avid reader of books but never listened to an audio book.
    You or someone else in the Gulch once wrote that an audio book is great for a long drive.
    I'll keep that in mind.
    Thanks for the added information.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Downpour was an Oregon based company Blackstone Audio, and they redid their site about 6-7 years ago, for like 12.00 a month, you get 1 credit, for most of their books. If you like audio books, they have a large number of history, fiction and some sci fi. A lot of Heinlein is there. A good source for audio books, as they download in MP3 so you can use most digital players. Audible is my other source, they are bigger, but proprietary, so if you want to burn them to CD, you have to use iTunes, and an average book will run 12-16 CD's at 80 mins each. Somewhat painful and bulky.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks Nickursis,
    I am with the dapper Dino
    I had not heard of downpour.
    I read the book , saw the trilogy and listened to the audiobook. Loved AS each time.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, I was daunted at it's size, so I got the Audio book, and it was 37 hours long, but the guy who read it was awesome, and on Downpour.com it was 1 credit (like, 11.95 or so), so it was a steal, IMHO. Well worth just sitting back and listening to....
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Good grief! I just realized that she has looks that would resemble Hitler's daughter if he had one.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Ayn Rand was amazing. About the only thing she got wrong in Atlas Shrugged was people still wearing a lot of hats and not baseball styled caps either. She even had one character wearing a derby.
    I have a lib brother I usually send books I've read as a Christmas present. The bulk is usually swashbuckling historical fiction that my most conservative of all brothers (I have 4) Joe handed down to me. Well, up, since I'm the oldest.
    For this Christmas I'm thinking I'll include my Atlas Shrugged novel for the lib. I may include a note like "Great science fiction here." Well, that's what I thought when I Netflix rented AS1.
    Next thing I know brother Joe is giving me the same DVD for Christmas. He told me I may not like the book because it's very long. I bought it anyways. Joe later followed up with AS2 and AS3
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I see "hand gestures" and I immediately think of Nutty Nancy Pelosi giving a speech.
    Years ago I read somewhere the suggestion that she studied the movements of Adolf Hitler giving speeches.
    Sometimes when I see her on TV I'll mock her with some slightly exaggerated hand twitching arm swinging mimicry.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    These are not the droids you are looking for (funny hand gesture), THOSE ARE THE DAMN RUSSIANS THAT COLLUDED WITH TRUMP TO STEAL THE ELCTION FROM QUEEN HILLARY!!!! (more funny hand gestures). Queue mainstream media and impeachment efforts....
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That sort of sounds like normal gub'ment operations, doesn't it? Let things decay until broke, or cover it all up in Kitty litter, then telll the voters why, if they do not approve your 20 Billion dollar tax increase to fix the dams, and add light rail, they will all die. You blow the 20 billion on light rail, then come back and tell the voters why it is all their fault. Normal Kalifornia politics... same for the Feds.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly the way I look at it, which is why it is the only spelling I use now. Ayn Rand was a prophet, and when more people get exposed to it, they suddenly begin to understand.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Progressive progress in all things is not to be questioned ever.
    What is your itty bitty teeny tiny opinion worth compared to the intellectual might of think tank panels fully chaired by your elite Big Brother betters?
    Now move on! Nothing to see here.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Especially if the Trinity or Oroville Dam collapse.
    One at 97% Capacity that is not recommended to go over 75% and the other is severely damaged and covered in a shroud of secrecy .
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 7 years ago
    I have no followed this issue at all, but all things being equal I favor less prison time, releasing prisoners as early as possible unless they're hopeless mass murderers. The reason is criminals respond to risk of getting caught but not long-term consequences. I like very few laws (not hitting or stealing in any form), a good number of cops, an army of citizens who want to help the cops catch the bad guys, and not spending a lot on long sentences. I'd rather cut sentences if quarter and quadruple the number of cops.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Kalifornia (I steal spellings that I like) reminds me of what had become of the USA in Atlas Shrugged.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "Shooting the bird" is how I first heard "giving the finger" described when I was a little kid In Alabama.
    Maybe it's a local colloquialism. I'm studying the gesture right now with three of my favorite fingers.
    That's because I don't use my pinky as a self-taught typist.
    My naughty gesture is now causing me to think of a flying goose with its wings in the down flap position.
    Yes, I can perceive such things as faces, horsies and dragons in cumulus cloud formations.
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  • Posted by $ nickursis 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    An excellent choice Dob. But Kalifornia is like our own Fukushima, the gift that just keeps on giving. More taxes, more debt, more people with no jobs, more crazy ideas on why it should all be "free", and of course more Felony Pelosi...
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  • Posted by Dobrien 7 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Shooting birds , Is that giving the finger ?
    Road rage was invented in California.
    In 78 I moved to Huntington Beach. The amount of crime and the types of crime was very eye opening especially to someone with a fairly sheltered childhood. I learned that crooks from other parts of the country headed to ca. To start a new life of crime. I got out of the left coast in 80 when we had our first son.
    And never looked back.
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