So, my mind, brain, good health and ability to create value should be sacrificed for someone with an inadequate immune system?
Instead, why don't we identify those with poor immune systems and build them up naturally and leave the rest of us alone.

Having personally lost a daughter (to unknown causes), please understand that I sympathize with your friends. That being said, however, I think your characterization of the argument is missing one major component: risk. Every choice or decision carries with it risk. Measles carries with it a 30% mortality rate and a 90% infection rate in non-vaccinated individuals. Those aren't great odds. In fact, they're quite cataclysmic. I think that as a matter of public policy there was no chance to get the disease under control, however, without mandating the vaccine.

Times have most certainly changed, however, and so have the risks of contracting measles, so I would agree with you that it may be time to re-evaluate the mandate in that light. Technologies have also changed and we might now be able to identify individuals at high risk for the vaccine (noting that those same individuals with a sensitivity to the vaccine would almost certainly die if they ever came into contact with the actual disease). I believe that the policy should be adjusted to encourage but not mandate vaccination and allow the parents to weigh the risks.

I almost voted this article down because the subject was left as a surprise to trick people into following the link.

Yes, vaccines aren't perfect for everybody, but they are meant to protect a whole community, especially the few whom those diseases might kill, not just the individual receiving the shot. Thus I see refusal as sort of like reckless driving -- most of the time you'll get away with it, but why take the chance?

Abaco... I think America has approximately 300 million individuals. We can't have separate laws for each individual can we? There have to be some advantages to living with society...Common sense mutual defense is one of the big ones.. Individuals needing total isolation and independence probably need a country of their own.

A public policy that is based "around the majority" killed three children of friends of mine. Some may say that is appropriate...that they were expendable for the betterment of "the majority". I disagree. I think they should have been allowed to live. In "providing healthcare", programs "centered around the majority", governments end up being unethical and dangerous. This is why I value the individual in this discussion. Thanks for asking. I just respectfully request that you mull this over and, perhaps, read my words carefully a second time to see what I'm really saying. One who was killed was a baby girl, less than a year old. One was a girl who was horribly disabled and lived 14 years in a wheelchair unable to dress, feed or toilet herself before dying. One was a healthy 15 year old boy. All were very, very tragic.

First of all, did he say April 15th? We are either too late or very, very early.
The problem with vaccinations as proposed by the gov. is that like all things that comes out of Washington, it's one size fits all. If millions of vaccinations are given, there are bound to be some with negative effects. If the negative effect hits your child, then you will not be inclined to be a supporter of inoculation. The question boils down to whether or not you as a parent is willing to take a chance with your child even if the odds are heavily in your favor.

What has some people frightened about vaccines isn't the vaccines themselves, but the heavy metal additives for long term storage. The coincidence between mercury vaccine additives and the similarities between autism and "mad hatter's disease" caused by long term exposure to mercury elicit suspicious comparisons. All of the studies that purport to validate the additives cause no harm have been done by pharmaceutical companies who profit from vaccine sales.

Mercury is not the only culprit, as aluminum additives are used in some vaccines, and dementia resembles afflictions caused by ingestion of aluminum. Of course some people still cook with aluminum pots and pans, so it's hard to determine any substantive connection with vaccines. Third party studies on the effects of incidental aluminum exposure have cast doubt on this metal being much of a hazard, but it does give some people cause for worry.

There may in fact be no substantive connection between vaccines and certain maladies, but serious research done by parties with no conflict of interest would help to put the concerns to rest.

When you actually learn what the titers research says about the effectiveness of vaccines you see that they are only partially effective. The oft-maligned MMR is about 60% effective, in terms of titers. Almost nobody knows that. I happen to know the doctor who did the study.

When I was a kid, my folks had me vaccinated for everything there was. (Late 40s, the 50s, the early 60s).
When I was drafted into the Marines (1969), we were herded like cattle through a chute, getting shots on both sides.
One was in my butt or how I learned I was allergic to penicillin. No recruit on Parris Island got to call home on Christmas unless they were in the infirmary. My folks were really glad to hear from me on that day.
I married a nurse during the 80s. So you know three kids got all their shots.
Maybe pinheads didn't put dangerous stuff like mercury and aluminum into vaccines back then.
I never heard of such stupid crap until I landed into The Gulch.
One thing is for sure, parents have a right to know if such poison is added to a vaccine.

I don't understand your argument. Please elaborate.

Their first series "The Truth About Cancer" was incredible. I plan to watch this series too.

No.

It should center around the individual.

Just to say, being older, I also had the diseases before the vaccines were invented. And I note in the story about Minneapolis that among those infected were two who had been vaccinated. As I said, it is worth discussing. Thanks for starting it.

Very nice. Thank you!

Yes...the very best I have seen is bloodtype markers. It is actually bloodtype that determines what parts of our dna is activated together with ancestral and epigenetic consequences.

Dr. Peter D'Adamo of http://right4yourtype.com has done an amazing amount of work in this area.
It's the first place to start in achieving good health and I think it's the lowest common denominator to be considered for good health...we can work our way up from there.

His original book: Live Right 4 your type or even the original Eat Right 4 Your Type gives you a complete synopsis, Biological, chemical and anthropological facts to consider.

A few might die but most will be left unharmed and might benefit naturally but vaccinations on a whole kill and maim more. Medicine is not advanced enough, not integrated enough nor honest enough to be trying to fool mother nature.

As a somewhat unrelated problem, do you know if anyone has invented a way to ascertain risk factors for these diseases on an individual basis (probably using genetic markers)? It would seem that much of the policy debate was a shotgun approach to try to shield the majority of people from the minority who were the risk. With improved technology, maybe now we can individually determine the risk both to going un-immunized AND to receiving the vaccine...?

The problem is outliers. There are some who die from measles - especially infants and the aged. There are some who die from the vaccinations. Yet it is the outliers who seem to drive public policy. Why? Shouldn't public policy center around the majority?

MMR "IS" a problem, mercury and aluminum "IS" a problem. Why can't these creatures figure this out?
Measles is not a particular problem, The thing that surprised me is, once infected, one is protected life long, as opposed to just 10 years but also against many other diseases...goes to show how valuable the immune system is when left alone from allopathic humanoid intervention.

Don't know about you, but I got all the childhood diseases and never got sick again after that. There is something to be said about letting mother nature take it's course and engaging in the environment by playing in the dirt.

Someone, that didn't comment, marked you down, I voted you back up.

Every year, about 40,000 people die in automobile accidents. You vaccinate a million kids, someone's going to have a bad reaction. The problem is not vaccination per se, it is the fact that we are each of us biological individuals and the best medicines would be genetically engineered for each of us as individuals. Short of that, we use soap and hot water on ourselves and our clothing; cook, dry, salt, and refrigerate our food; etc. (And, yes, some people are allergic to some soaps. And, yes, 84 people contracted trichinosis in 2015, which would not have happened if they had not eaten pork in the first place.)

"A measles outbreak in Minnesota particularly centered among unvaccinated individuals in Somali-American neighborhoods is spreading outside the community and even infected two people who had originally been vaccinated, state health officials said Thursday.
"There are 41 confirmed cases of the disease and health officials believe 2,500 individuals were exposed.
Two of the most recently contracted cases involved people who had received the recommended doses of the Measles, Mumps and Rubella (MMR) vaccine, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported on Thursday.
One was a healthcare worker who had been exposed to several infected patients, the paper said.
The outbreak has been concentrated in the state’s Somali community, where fear of vaccinations leading to autism has caused many parents not to vaccinate their children against the disease." -- Washington Times (not Washington Post) here:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2...

I did not vote down the original post because this is a discussion we should. I respect your facts. I just dispute your conclusions.